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Gentlemen,

 

I would like to know if there are 5 or 6 universally accepted athletic skills tests that are used by professional baseball to determine standards that most baseball players would have that translate to achieving success.

 

I found these but I do not know if these are universally accepted. And, No I am not promoting this one below.

 

Tests Measurement In Game Attribute

  • 20-yd Shuttle Agility & Quickness Ability to Change Directions
  • Vertical Jump Explosive Power Dynamic Speed & Reaction
  • 30-yd Dash Speed Basepath Speed (Home to 1st)
  • Rotational PowerBall Throw Core Strength/Power Bat Speed & Rotational Power
  1. The 20-Yard Shuttle: measures lateral mobility and agility, as well as body control during changes of direction.
  2. The Vertical Jump: measures elastic strength and leg explosiveness.
  3. The 30-Yard Dash: measures pure speed and acceleration. This is also a reliable indicator of explosiveness.
  4. The Rotational PowerBall Throw: measures core power through the hitting zone, as well as total body strength.

Most all athletes score between 1 and 100 on the Baseball SPARQ Rating. According to the SPARQ Baseball Performance Guide (see below), the average score of high school baseball players on the Baseball SPARQ Rating is 50.80. At this point, only one athlete has scored higher than 100, and this athlete is a Baseball Northwest alumni. Boston Red Sox centerfielder, Jacoby Ellsbury’s Baseball SPARQ Rating of 102.31 is the highest Baseball SPARQ Rating achieved by a baseball athlete. Jacoby’s performance on the Baseball SPARQ Rating puts him in an athletic class of his own. You can view Jacoby’s incredible 102.31 SPARQ testing performance at: www.sparqtraining.com/trainers/matt_james. This score is incredibly impressive considering SPARQ has tested over 25,000 players at the high school, college and professional levels.

 

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Good question.  

You can engineer some straight line speed out of players but those same players aren't necessarily the best athletes.  Explosive agility drills like the 5-10-5 (20Yd) and Rotational PowerBall Throw can offer greater insight into a players athleticism. I think most of these tests you mention are included in Area Code tryouts.  A college prospect camp my son attended included 5-10-5 and vertical test.

It would be great if these tests would be included in PG Showcases.  If they're going to refer to someone as an "outstanding athlete", the testing of measurable's should include tests for lateral movement, agility and explosiveness.

I know a kid with a PG score of 10 that runs a 6.6 for the 60 - solid straight line speed.  But he'd bomb a 5-10-5 drill if tested - absolute zero agility and range.  Kids at the high school joke about his assessment as an outstanding athlete - they run circles around him in hoops.

Improved tests for determining true athletic ability would be a valuable addition to be used for rating players. I'm sure college scouts that subscribe to PG would like to add that to the filter to down-select players they could be interested in.  MIF's having decent 60 times 6.8-7.0, but score high in 5-10-5 drills would reveal an explosive first step and likely have the agility to cover the range for balls hit in the infield gaps, as well as for stealing bases.

The link you provided goes directly to the Nike website (I know Nike is a JV partner in sparq testing).

Thanks for bringing this up.

 

 

Originally Posted by Gov:

Good question.  

You can engineer some straight line speed out of players but those same players aren't necessarily the best athletes.  Explosive agility drills like the 5-10-5 (20Yd) and Rotational PowerBall Throw can offer greater insight into a players athleticism. I think most of these tests you mention are included in Area Code tryouts.  A college prospect camp my son attended included 5-10-5 and vertical test.

It would be great if these tests would be included in PG Showcases.  If they're going to refer to someone as an "outstanding athlete", the testing of measurable's should include tests for lateral movement, agility and explosiveness.

I know a kid with a PG score of 10 that runs a 6.6 for the 60 - solid straight line speed.  But he'd bomb a 5-10-5 drill if tested - absolute zero agility and range.  Kids at the high school joke about his assessment as an outstanding athlete - they run circles around him in hoops.

Improved tests for determining true athletic ability would be a valuable addition to be used for rating players. I'm sure college scouts that subscribe to PG would like to add that to the filter to down-select players they could be interested in.  MIF's having decent 60 times 6.8-7.0, but score high in 5-10-5 drills would reveal an explosive first step and likely have the agility to cover the range for balls hit in the infield gaps, as well as for stealing bases.

The link you provided goes directly to the Nike website (I know Nike is a JV partner in sparq testing).

Thanks for bringing this up.

 

 

I found this website this afternoon.

 

https://lehmansbaseball.wordpress.com/5-tools/

 

How do you measure the performance during the rotational powerball throw?

My 2016 does these types of drills at his workout facility - they get a baseline and then re-test down the road to track improvement.  But I haven't seen these tests at any of the camps or showcases he attended the past two years.  The standard showcase format seems to be what most schools use when they have you on campus (he attended several D1 camps and 1 D3 camp) and the showcases were pretty much the same format except that one had him pitch a bullpen instead of live.  

 

If you were a D1 coach and you have 80 kids on campus for 1 day do you want to use time to have everyone measure rotational powerball throws or watch them hit baseballs with power?  

Originally Posted by jawaters1:
Originally Posted by Gov:

Good question.  

You can engineer some straight line speed out of players but those same players aren't necessarily the best athletes.  Explosive agility drills like the 5-10-5 (20Yd) and Rotational PowerBall Throw can offer greater insight into a players athleticism. I think most of these tests you mention are included in Area Code tryouts.  A college prospect camp my son attended included 5-10-5 and vertical test.

It would be great if these tests would be included in PG Showcases.  If they're going to refer to someone as an "outstanding athlete", the testing of measurable's should include tests for lateral movement, agility and explosiveness.

I know a kid with a PG score of 10 that runs a 6.6 for the 60 - solid straight line speed.  But he'd bomb a 5-10-5 drill if tested - absolute zero agility and range.  Kids at the high school joke about his assessment as an outstanding athlete - they run circles around him in hoops.

Improved tests for determining true athletic ability would be a valuable addition to be used for rating players. I'm sure college scouts that subscribe to PG would like to add that to the filter to down-select players they could be interested in.  MIF's having decent 60 times 6.8-7.0, but score high in 5-10-5 drills would reveal an explosive first step and likely have the agility to cover the range for balls hit in the infield gaps, as well as for stealing bases.

The link you provided goes directly to the Nike website (I know Nike is a JV partner in sparq testing).

Thanks for bringing this up.

 

 

I found this website this afternoon.

 

https://lehmansbaseball.wordpress.com/5-tools/

 

How do you measure the performance during the rotational powerball throw?

Good stuff on that website, I like the baseball combine.  We should get this guy on the board.

Originally Posted by MKbaseballdad:

My 2016 does these types of drills at his workout facility - they get a baseline and then re-test down the road to track improvement.  But I haven't seen these tests at any of the camps or showcases he attended the past two years.  The standard showcase format seems to be what most schools use when they have you on campus (he attended several D1 camps and 1 D3 camp) and the showcases were pretty much the same format except that one had him pitch a bullpen instead of live.  

 

If you were a D1 coach and you have 80 kids on campus for 1 day do you want to use time to have everyone measure rotational powerball throws or watch them hit baseballs with power?  

Valid point. If a D1 coach is looking at a group of MIF's, the coach should also use the more athletic drills showing quick first steps and agility (like the 5-10-5).

Last edited by Gov
Originally Posted by Gov:
Originally Posted by MKbaseballdad:

My 2016 does these types of drills at his workout facility - they get a baseline and then re-test down the road to track improvement.  But I haven't seen these tests at any of the camps or showcases he attended the past two years.  The standard showcase format seems to be what most schools use when they have you on campus (he attended several D1 camps and 1 D3 camp) and the showcases were pretty much the same format except that one had him pitch a bullpen instead of live.  

 

If you were a D1 coach and you have 80 kids on campus for 1 day do you want to use time to have everyone measure rotational powerball throws or watch them hit baseballs with power?  

Valid point. If a D1 coach is looking at a group of MIF's, the coach should also use the more athletic drills showing quick first steps and agility (like the 5-10-5).

Really good point about the amount time that it would take. I was thinking that High Schools coaches should do these drills as you suggested and retest for progress and improvement. Then if the scout was looking for additional data it would be available. Additionally, I would think that this information would be helpful to the HS coach. 

Last edited by jawaters1
Originally Posted by Gov:

Improved tests for determining true athletic ability would be a valuable addition to be used for rating players. I'm sure college scouts that subscribe to PG would like to add that to the filter to down-select players they could be interested in.  MIF's having decent 60 times 6.8-7.0, but score high in 5-10-5 drills would reveal an explosive first step and likely have the agility to cover the range for balls hit in the infield gaps, as well as for stealing bases. 

PG started using the following: 

 

Classic 30 yd
4.12          8/4/2015         
 
         
Classic Reaction
2.48          8/4/2015         
 
         
Classic Shuttle
4.70          8/4/2015         
 

this summer at Ft. Myers FL for one of their events.   

 

Last edited by CatsPop
Originally Posted by jawaters1:

Gentlemen,

 

I would like to know if there are 5 or 6 universally accepted athletic skills tests that are used by professional baseball to determine standards that most baseball players would have that translate to achieving success.

 

I found these but I do not know if these are universally accepted. And, No I am not promoting this one below.

 

Tests Measurement In Game Attribute

  • 20-yd Shuttle Agility & Quickness Ability to Change Directions
  • Vertical Jump Explosive Power Dynamic Speed & Reaction
  • 30-yd Dash Speed Basepath Speed (Home to 1st)
  • Rotational PowerBall Throw Core Strength/Power Bat Speed & Rotational Power
  1. The 20-Yard Shuttle: measures lateral mobility and agility, as well as body control during changes of direction.
  2. The Vertical Jump: measures elastic strength and leg explosiveness.
  3. The 30-Yard Dash: measures pure speed and acceleration. This is also a reliable indicator of explosiveness.
  4. The Rotational PowerBall Throw: measures core power through the hitting zone, as well as total body strength.

Most all athletes score between 1 and 100 on the Baseball SPARQ Rating. According to the SPARQ Baseball Performance Guide (see below), the average score of high school baseball players on the Baseball SPARQ Rating is 50.80. At this point, only one athlete has scored higher than 100, and this athlete is a Baseball Northwest alumni. Boston Red Sox centerfielder, Jacoby Ellsbury’s Baseball SPARQ Rating of 102.31 is the highest Baseball SPARQ Rating achieved by a baseball athlete. Jacoby’s performance on the Baseball SPARQ Rating puts him in an athletic class of his own. You can view Jacoby’s incredible 102.31 SPARQ testing performance at: www.sparqtraining.com/trainers/matt_james. This score is incredibly impressive considering SPARQ has tested over 25,000 players at the high school, college and professional levels.

 

We would focus and test the following every year:

1. 10yd/40yd/60yd sprint

2. Long Jump/ Vertical Jump/ Lateral Single Leg Bound

3. 300 yd Shuttle

4.Functional Movement Screen

5.Goniometric Measurements

 

These are the tests we used with the Yankees over 10 years.

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