Back In My Day blah, blah, blah...(Go away old man/woman)

Not everyone from previous generations thinks that, http://www.theonion.com/articl...were-for-shit,10792/

I would consider myself one of the older generation.  I don't think they ALWAYS have it it easier.  In fact in some ways, I think it is much harder to be a kid or young adult these days.  There are too many choices, and lots of distractions.  Decisions seem to be accelerated with regard to academics, athletics and other areas of interest.  I know I was not mature enough to make some of the choices my sons have made when I was their age....no question about it.

 

I view respect as a totally separate thing altogether.  You are either brought up to respect those older than you or you are not.   

I view respect as not something given but rather something earned. Older people don't deserve respect just because they are older. I know many older people who deserve zero respect. BTW, this is something I learned as a kid from two guys, one born in the 1890's and the other, the 1920's.

I have found that many people confuse courtesy with respect.  There is absolutely no reason why and adolescent or child should not address grown women or men as Mrs., Mr., Ma'am or Sir.

 

Respect is something earned by accomplishment, or deeds.  If a 75 year old is a racist, cussing small minded and nasty human being then it is OK to say have a nice day Mr. Smith and think privately he is a jerk.

 

The inter-generational poor mouthing probably started 10,000 years ago when junior insisted on using a spear instead of a rock to drop an mammoth.  He's just not as tough as we are....the future is doomed.

 

And you can take that to the bank from a guy who walked a mile to school in the snow uphill both ways! 

Got a question - how do you treat someone you first meet until they have earned your respect?  I've never really understood the whole "you have to earn respect not give it".  When two (or more) people meet for the first time and interact what is someone supposed to do to earn the other person's respect?  So Bob walks up to Tom and Bob believes Tom has to earn his respect - so what happens?  Will Bob keep his mouth shut until Tom opens his and speaks to him professionally with courtesy or will he start the dialog?  If Bob starts the dialog by saying things like "sir" or "please" or whatever is considered respectful then how is Tom earning Bob's respect?  What happens if Bob wants Tom to earn his respect and Tom wants Bob to earn his respect - do they even talk at this point waiting on the other to show respect?????

 

I've always believed in giving everyone respect because it opens up the door for everyone to respect one another right off the bat.  Plus, it's just the right thing to do.  I was taught this by my mom and dad and they were born in the 40's.

 

Now if someone treats me like an a-hole then I'm going to treat them like an a-hole but they have to earn that treatment.

I was sitting with my dad at the VA the other day.  I had to go to the bathroom and an older guy came in.  He was upset that some younger guys had almost hit with a bike and then cussed him out.  He shouted at them that if he were younger, he'd teach them respect.  They just continued on their way calling him names.  I went out to help him.  Later, that older gentleman advance through the waiting process to the next waiting room where my dad and I had been sitting for 3 hours.  He thanked me for coming outside.  In the course of sitting there, he was torn because, as he said, he would have taught those smart .... something if he was younger,  I asked him how old he was.  He said 95.  I couldn't believe it.  He was wearing a WWII hat.  I asked him about his service.  Pacific he said.  He said he doubted that those guys (boys on bikes) would understand Island Hopping in the Pacific WWII.  He told me he still has nightmares.  Then, he said that out of all of the nightmares he had, watching people jump to their death on Okinawa was the worse because children were involved.  Now, no one would have any way to know his history.  I respected him because of his age and not simply as a courtesy. 

I really don't understand the reason for the thread.

 

Older folks benefit from experience.  Youth benefit from lack of experience, and thus push the limits hopefully towards progress.

 

Its been going on forever.  Not gonna change.  Its a nice balance, usually, and tends to correct big mistakes over time.

 

Whats the point?  To tell older people to "go away?"  Silly stuff.

Nice to see you agree with me!

Coach2709, right as rain. I was taught and teach my young to give all respect. That respect can be lost but it is given first.

I was raised that receiving respect is earned and giving respect is lost.

In other words you must earn others respect of you but give respect to everyone until they do something to lose it.

In reading the post, and from what I can gather, I’m pretty sure OldSkool2 was illustrating that the condescending way in which the older generations sometimes tell the younger generations that they need to respect something like they did is not productive and usually just antagonizes the younger people. And, I think the quote from the link helps to illustrate that the same actions occurred in past generations as well, not just today.

 

If I'm interpreting the OP right, I'm not really sure what giving respect or having respect or earning respect or war veterans have to do with the OP at all.

 

I respect my elders.  however there seem to be a lot fewer of them the older I get.

 

i think young people should respect their elders.  If you are 18 years old, ask yourself, will I know more in 10 or 20 years than I know now?  

 

If you don't know more you went a long time without learning anything.  Is that even possible?

 

Obviously, your education makes a big difference, but most everyone gets smarter up until the time you reach, say my age.  At that point I think you have forgotten most of what you have learned and you start getting dumber.

 

I think there is difference between real respect and showing respect.

 

I show respect to everyone, unless they are racist, sexist, homophobic, anti trans, anti labor, anti intellectual, anti people or anti anything else that I forgot.

 

Now that we got that out of the way, let's get back to the link I posted.

Would that include anti-management?...as you forgot that one.

No. America was essentially formed by telling management (British) to go eff itself, i'm pretty content with standing with the United States of America.

Everyone, regardless of age, gets my respect initially and will continue to do so unless and or until they demonstrate they don't deserve it.

We have an interesting situation in Massachusetts. Have you ever seen thousands of employees walk off the job in support of management. In a family struggle one cousin got control of the board and had another cousin fired as CEO. Many employees walked out in support of the CEO. They're all risking being fired to support a CEO. The cousin on the board and the board is risking destroying a multi billion dollar company to get back at the other cousin. The feud has been going on for years. The business is losing millions every day as many store shelves sit empty and customers boycott the store in support of the employees and the CEO.

So, if someone were "anti" something based upon things that might include religious beliefs, experience, etc. then you don't respect them.  Got it!

Whatever it is, I'm against it.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHash5takWU

 

 

 

Religion is a choice. If you want to back up your hatred of a group via religion you basically are saying that you hate this group because you are a bigot. Which I guess is fine in messed up way, just own your bigotry.