Baseball in McKinney

Having seen all three play in district last year, I would go with Alves.

I thought he was an all-around athlete who could hit, pitch and play defense. He also seemed to be a leader on the team both times we played them. After seeing some of his stats he put up in football at Boyd, it only confirms what kind of athlete this young man is.

Lipka and Lee are both outstanding as well, but if I'm building a team from scratch, I want to start with Alves.

Alves is the one I would start a team with as well. Unbelieveable athlete!

I would have to go with McKinney as the team to beat in this town.

I would have to go with Lipka and Lee. First off great students and second they both are great team players and go to the same school. They both feed on each other success. Reminds me a little of Paul Kelly and Italiano from flower Mound a few year back. both were second round picks.

PD,

What took so long to realize Plano was going to win city?

You all have been so convincing -- and Superman is still running around in shorts. We might as well skip the games between the Plano teams, eh? <-- that takes the Wildcats 4 games closer to the district title on the way to Roundrock.

Maybe West will have something to say about it though -- I hear there will be a few roster updates over there soon. As for the Panthers, our guys will battle Allen and LH and Berkner and Richardson for the last playoff spot.

Best Pitcher = Lee
Best Hitter = Lipka
Best on the base paths = Alves
Best Defense = Three way tie

They are all great athletes and all have a terrific upside.

BIG LIP has my vote for AAP(all around player). Son played with him for last 5 seasons. Definitely should've been JO selection last year. When the game is on the line, he gets the ball and delivers. Plus gets it done on the gridiron as well.

Best of luck in '08 Lipka!

From your fans S. of I20!

Well of course it's the LION boys...

They are both HUGE assets and play completely different roles on the team. One could not replace the other.

I didn't think Sandy could pick just one.

I love Alves, but he can't hit like Lipka or pitch like Lee, but he ain't bad at either. MHS is the best overall team, but all 3 are good enough on any given day to beat the other. North doesn't make the playoffs this year.MHS has a shot at State.

I disagree.

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Originally posted by dano7051:
Best Pitcher = Lee
Best Hitter = Lipka
Best on the base paths = Alves
Best Defense = Three way tie

They are all great athletes and all have a terrific upside.

Dano - based on your posts here and on hornfan.com...I nominate you as President of the Zach Lee fan club.

disclaimer - Zach Lee is an excellent player and this post does not add to or detract from his playing ability.

BringIt..........what are you basing your hypothesis on that McKinney North won't make the playoffs this year?

Just wondering if you knew something I didn't.

I read recently that PGCrosschecker.com has Zach Lee listed as the #4 prospect in the country for the 2010 class. Also, Matt Lipka was there as well at #41. Pretty impressive stuff. Both kids are great players for sure. Congratulations go out to both of them.

OP,

Can you explain the perfect game thing to me. It seems to me that kids get rated by PG only if the participate in their events. Meaning they really dont know the best players, only the kids/ parents that throw money at them.. Is that a correct assesment on my part?

Someone help me understand why I should buy into PG'S rankings..

As for the Lee and Lipka kid.. They are very good players and deserve to be ranked that high. I think Lipka may be one of the best around.

Alves, he's to little to be taken serious. He should be a jockey or something.

JMO

Johnnie,

PG rates players based on what they have seen personally and what scouts they trust tell them about a player. I don't think for one minute that they only rate a kid because they've been to one of their events. As a matter of fact, I know for sure that's not the case. I know for a fact that many, many kids they rank have never been to a PG event. A great example right now is Nico Taylor. He's listed in the top 500 in the country and has never been to any PG event, whether it be showcase or tournament. PG does an incredible job at what they do. They get blasted all the time about how much money it costs to do their events, but I can bet they aren't running to the bank with loads of extra money. It cost's a lot of money to do what they do. I think a lot of us get carried away with the entire ranking thing to be honest, me included for sure, but you can compare their rankings at the end of the day to the actual draft each year and they're not far off on most of what they project. I don't know if I answered your question or not. Maybe PGStaff will show up and give us a lesson. I know there are many posts throughout this site on this subject. Do a search and you can find a ton of info about this very thing.

I'm done!

Old Pitcher
Please list 1-3 who are in front of Zach.

OP,
I think MHS is #1, I think due to pitching depth Boyd is #2 and I believe Frisco will finish 3rd....mainly due to coaching and a better shot at finding a #2 & #3 pitcher. Gatewood may end up being a great coach (I doubt it, but it could happen) but at this time, I like Cook's knowledge of the district and more recent high school experience. JMHO

PD,
Don't just disagree, elaborate, after all you did start this mess.

I just disagreed to make it messier.

I can't find a PG profile for Lee or Lipka. Have they ever gone to a PG event?

Here is the B.I. profile.....................................................................................................their pretty good.

Bring it.............What do you know about Coach Gatewood and whether or not he's a good coach?

Who else does Boyd have beside Kinard? Will #2 stay eligible?

OP,
I know as much about that as you know about your posts.

Don't be so touchy, it is just an opinion.

Don't be trash talking about our coach. I would have lived with it had you not said "I doubt it". You didn't need to go there. What are you basing your "opinion" on is my question?

Mainly on the fact he is a turd. And in one year, with Appleby and OP Son, maybe the best 1-2 pitching duo in the state last year,he couldn't win a playoff series. Once again, just an opinion and probably not even a qualified one.

OK......fair enough. At least now I know where your coming from. I know the history you're talking about, so I respect your opinion, right or wrong.

OP,
I think Milam will win games for Boyd, He may be one of the best coaches in the state. I think Price is just a guy, won't win or lose games for MHS. I think Gatewood will lose more than he will win for North. If you can't win with that pitching combo last year, then you have issues. I believe Milam will take us further than anyone knows.

Okay,
I'll go on the record, Price is a little more than "a guy".

Robert Spengler

Do they have any 5 A baseball in McKinney?

Next year, Boyd joins 5A-D8 in Region 1.

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I think Price is just a guy, won't win or lose games for MHS.

Bring It...you are showing you don't know so much!

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OP,
I think Milam will win games for Boyd, He may be one of the best coaches in the state. I think Price is just a guy, won't win or lose games for MHS. I think Gatewood will lose more than he will win for North. If you can't win with that pitching combo last year, then you have issues. I believe Milam will take us further than anyone knows.

Bringit,

Why don't we win more than we lose before we say that Boyd is the next state champ.

I agree that Milam just might be one of the best coaches in the state. What he did at North in a VERY short period was phenomenal.

Who created this topic??? <-- he's a genius!

Sandy,
I see how my comment could come across as negative, but really I meant Price seems to let his guys play the game, not over coaching, good or bad. With good players Price will be successful, with not so good players he might not "pull out" wins with a lot of strategy. Unlike his counterpart at North, who over coached several games last year, including but not limited to MHS's big comeback game last year.

OP,
Last year is just that...last year.
PS Didn't Boyd beat North last year?

Bring it,

If you are watching Boyd, then you don't know how Price is coaching, and if you are watching Boyd vs. Price then you are 0-2. Nuff said!

Thanks PD, now I'm on the sofa for sure.

Who is the best in PLANO?

Robert Spengler

Lee or Lipka have never attended a PG event

Touche

looks like they only play baseball in the McKinney ISD, Plano Senior High, Mesquite Poteet, and Royse City according to this board...

What's the obsession with the above schools, just curious?

McKinney is the only baseball I really know about. And even that's debatable. I surely can't talk about anyone else.