Do you think we (umpires) should have a copy of BBCOR BESR certified and unapproved bats (all 100 pages) with us at games????
What are you going to do?
I have the three lists AND I will bring them to the games!
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quote:Originally posted by POLOGREEN:
Do you think we (umpires) should have a copy of BBCOR BESR certified and unapproved bats (all 100 pages) with us at games????
What are you going to do?
I have the three lists AND I will bring them to the games!
FED place responsibility for bats with the umpire. My association has accepted.
I have a list of approved bats. No since carrying a list of unapproved...if it isn't on the list of approved...it isn't approved.
quote:Originally posted by POLOGREEN:
Do you think we (umpires) should have a copy of BBCOR BESR certified and unapproved bats (all 100 pages) with us at games????
What are you going to do?
I have the three lists AND I will bring them to the games!
Missouri has decided to put the job on the coach to verify his bats are legal. He's to print the lists by manufacturer and highlight the bats that are being used by his team. When the umpires check bats, the bats needing to be verified should already be highlighted.
[/QUOTE]Missouri has decided to put the job on the coach to verify his bats are legal. He's to print the lists by manufacturer and highlight the bats that are being used by his team. When the umpires check bats, the bats needing to be verified should already be highlighted.[/QUOTE]
Now that's smart. IMO, we need to put the liability on the coaches. I do not want that liability. I do it, and accurately ... but I don't like checking bats. I dont mind checking for unsafe properties; but legal or not from a mfr? I'd rather vomit.
Now that's smart. IMO, we need to put the liability on the coaches. I do not want that liability. I do it, and accurately ... but I don't like checking bats. I dont mind checking for unsafe properties; but legal or not from a mfr? I'd rather vomit.
Are you guys telling me that even the metal (non composite) BESR bats have to be on someone's list?
I thought that was a composite only issue and we don't have any composites.
I thought that was a composite only issue and we don't have any composites.
quote:Originally posted by trojan-skipper:
Are you guys telling me that even the metal (non composite) BESR bats have to be on someone's list?
I thought that was a composite only issue and we don't have any composites.
Nope - just the composites. If you only encounter BESR aluminum bats - no issue then.
quote:Originally posted by trojan-skipper:
Are you guys telling me that even the metal (non composite) BESR bats have to be on someone's list?
I thought that was a composite only issue and we don't have any composites.
As long as the metal is aluminum, they don't have to be checked. The bats that are being checked are BESR bats with any metal other than aluminum.
My list of 14 legal composite bats fits neatly in my lineup card holder. If the bat "pings" (metal) and it has BESR screened on it, it's good to go. If it doesn't, and it's not on the list, it's not going to be used unless it's wood.
I agree Dash, the list without pictures is very easy to carry. There is a bat that is legal but doesn't have the model numbeer on it, a Voodoo I believe, no number then it isn't on the list.