Beach District: April 23-28 (Week 6)

Any scores from today's games?

OL lost to Cox 7 to 3
Was a close game until late innings.

Kellam beat Landstown 10-3.
Again, a close game till late innings

Harry..did not know they played today or would of been out...Can you elabrate on the game? Who pitched for both teams and who hit the ball? According to this site Landstown is now 5-5 in the 6th spot. Is Kellam that good?

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Originally posted by Harry Garry:
Kellam beat Landstown 10-3.
Again, a close game till late innings

Blankenship started and pitched a great game for Landstown. It was a very good game and tied until the fifth, around the time when Blankenship came out of the game. Not many notable things occured except for the wheels falling off in the later innings. As for Kellam, cant say much for certain.

...Their good but definitely beatable!

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Is Kellam that good?

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Originally posted by Harry Garry:
Kellam beat Landstown 10-3.
Again, a close game till late innings

Yes, Kellam is that good. I do not know how FC beat them. The one thing I have noticed about Kellam so far is they have not been able to put it all together. Monihan and Sinnen are excellent on the mound, Stasky is the only other pitcher in the Beach at their level. They all can hit, 1 through 9. and the coaching is the best in the beach. I am surprised they have not blown out more teams, Kellam is the only beach team capable of competeing with SE distric teams.

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Originally posted by playright:

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Is Kellam that good?

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Originally posted by Harry Garry:
Kellam beat Landstown 10-3.
Again, a close game till late innings

Yes, Kellam is that good. I do not know how FC beat them. The one thing I have noticed about Kellam so far is they have not been able to put it all together. Monihan and Sinnen are excellent on the mound, Stasky is the only other pitcher in the Beach at their level. They all can hit, 1 through 9. and the coaching is the best in the beach. I am surprised they have not blown out more teams, Kellam is the only beach team capable of competeing
with SE distric teams.

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FC beat them because Kellam didn't produce that day.
FC pitchers Dylan Shortt and Clay Frizzell pitched a very good game but Kellam had several chances with RISP to take the game one with bases loaded and their all district player didn't get it done.

FC beat them because Kellam didn't produce that day. FC pitchers Dylan Shortt and Clay Frizzell pitched a very good game but Kellam had several chances with RISP to take the game one with bases loaded and their all district player didn't get it done.[/QUOTE]

CAN WE PLEASE STOP THROWING TEENAGERS UNDER THE BUS! THIS IS COMPLETE **** AND UNCALLED FOR AND I, FOR ONE, AM TIRED OF IT. GET OFF IT. SOME SEEM TO NEVER HAVE SEEN A PRO GAME AND WATCHED PAID ATHLETES FAIL TIME AND TIME AGAIN. STOP IT NOW!

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Originally posted by zrxkuma:
FC beat them because Kellam didn't produce that day. FC pitchers Dylan Shortt and Clay Frizzell pitched a very good game but Kellam had several chances with RISP to take the game one with bases loaded and their all district player didn't get it done.

CAN WE PLEASE STOP THROWING TEENAGERS UNDER THE BUS! THIS IS COMPLETE **** AND UNCALLED FOR AND I, FOR ONE, AM TIRED OF IT. GET OFF IT. SOME SEEM TO NEVER HAVE SEEN A PRO GAME AND WATCHED PAID ATHLETES FAIL TIME AND TIME AGAIN. STOP IT NOW!
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zrxkuma
OMG is this my X ?
......exactly......The best hitters in the world don't get it done every day ! and thats ok. You learn from it and move foward. I wasn't trying to throw anyone !On this day FC pitchers got it done Kellam hitters didn't. Just the way it was.. MOM

Kellam is good, but FC beat you fair and square. Stop acting like Kellam is unbeatable. Were you at the game at FC? If so, you would of seen how well FC played. No slight to the boys you are talking about because they are great players. Harry Garry, Kellam is good!

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Originally posted by playright:

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Is Kellam that good?

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Originally posted by Harry Garry:
Kellam beat Landstown 10-3.
Again, a close game till late innings

Yes, Kellam is that good. I do not know how FC beat them. The one thing I have noticed about Kellam so far is they have not been able to put it all together. Monihan and Sinnen are excellent on the mound, Stasky is the only other pitcher in the Beach at their level. They all can hit, 1 through 9. and the coaching is the best in the beach. I am surprised they have not blown out more teams, Kellam is the only beach team capable of competeing with SE distric teams.

Raysfan I agree with you! Excellent point! I have been to countless pro games and saw exactly what you have said...STOP THE MADNESS.

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Originally posted by Raysfan:

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Originally posted by zrxkuma:
FC beat them because Kellam didn't produce that day. FC pitchers Dylan Shortt and Clay Frizzell pitched a very good game but Kellam had several chances with RISP to take the game one with bases loaded and their all district player didn't get it done.

CAN WE PLEASE STOP THROWING TEENAGERS UNDER THE BUS! THIS IS COMPLETE **** AND UNCALLED FOR AND I, FOR ONE, AM TIRED OF IT. GET OFF IT. SOME SEEM TO NEVER HAVE SEEN A PRO GAME AND WATCHED PAID ATHLETES FAIL TIME AND TIME AGAIN. STOP IT NOW!
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zrxkuma
OMG is this my X ?
......exactly......The best hitters in the world don't get it done every day ! and thats ok. You learn from it and move foward. I wasn't trying to throw anyone !On this day FC pitchers got it done Kellam hitters didn't. Just the way it was.. MOM

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Originally posted by Raysfan: FC pitchers Dylan Shortt and Clay Frizzell pitched a very good game but Kellam had several chances with RISP to take the game one with bases loaded and their all district player didn't get it done.

My first and immediate thoughts when I read this sentence were: "Was there only one player playing for Kellam that day, the one who didn't get it done?" Then I realized that there MUST be others because the bases were loaded. Then I wondered if the one who didn't get it done was the only one ever at the plate with a RISP. Then I tried to solve the puzzle of how three players get on base to load the bases with none of them batting with a RISP other than the one who didn't get it done. Then I wondered why is it incumbent for only one player to get it done? Didn't see the game but sounds like it was a team who did not get it done.

Couple things;
1.) Billy, I never said Kellam wasn't good(in fact i said just the opposite), I just said that they were beatable.
2.)Billy, that stuff about the pro athletes making mistakes too came from ZRXKuma
3.)Reporter, I completely agree with you. If you take any baseball game and think it was 1 or 2 people who caused the loss you are wrong. In fact, you can almost always contribute the loss among the whole team and if you can't it is because a couple of players had an incredibly good game and made no mistakes. But, that is very rare.

zrxkuma
OMG is this my X ?
......exactly......The best hitters in the world don't get it done every day ! and thats ok. You learn from it and move foward. I wasn't trying to throw anyone !On this day FC pitchers got it done Kellam hitters didn't. Just the way it was.. MOM[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

Raysfan.
In the interest of full disclosure, no, I am not your former life partner. Not sure why that was a relevant question, but there you go. Your question makes as much sense as your denial that your statement “their all district player didn't get it done” wasn’t an outright slam on that player based on an obvious bent nose from last year that your choice for said honor was found wanting.

At this point, I think it is worth noting that the "all district player" in question is having another great year for Kellam. My guess is he can't wait to face FC again because he is a competitor...You win some and you lose some but you move on!!!

Kellam is well coached, but too much at times. What to you guys think of all the "well qualified" dads coaching from the sidlines at Kellam?

As a former Kellam player, I think you need to specify, because most are not qualified and I know one of the ones you are referring to. In my own personal opinion, I know several will be pleased when that one is gone. I hope your reference to well coached, but too much at times is just referring to the "well qualified" dads comment. Coach Jones is a very knowledgable, hard nosed, caring and was a great honor to play for coach. I feel he is hancuffed at this point because many have somewhat bought into what you are referring to as "well qualified" dads, one in particular. When I played it was the same and was very frustrating hearing the same stuff over and over from the "well qualified" dad. I know Coach jones and saw how patient he was with that one "well qualified" dad in particular. In my opinion, I feel if the "well qualified" dad stays quiet, it would be so much more pleasurable. Just my humbled personal opinion.

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Originally posted by DEEPTHREAT:
Kellam is well coached, but too much at times. What to you guys think of all the "well qualified" dads coaching from the sidlines at Kellam?

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Originally posted by zrxkuma:
zrxkuma
OMG is this my X ?
......exactly......The best hitters in the world don't get it done every day ! and thats ok. You learn from it and move foward. I wasn't trying to throw anyone !On this day FC pitchers got it done Kellam hitters didn't. Just the way it was.. MOM

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Raysfan.
In the interest of full disclosure, no, I am not your former life partner. Not sure why that was a relevant question, but there you go. Your question makes as much sense as your denial that your statement “their all district player didn't get it done” wasn’t an outright slam on that player based on an obvious bent nose from last year that your choice for said honor was found wanting.[/QUOTE]
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No it's all good, everyone of those young men deserve all the credit they get.I really wasn't trying to single anyone out . It should have read "all district players" didn't get it done.

Does the well qualified dad happen to be the Drillers coach?

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Originally posted by paintboy:
Does the well qualified dad happen to be the Drillers coach?

Why is this even relevant? I've been to 7-8 kellam games this year and have yet to hear any of this "coaching from the stands". Makes me wonder if maybe somebody's feeling got bent at one time or another.

good point play right, if he was refering to the driller coach he is was one of the best coaches around in aau baseball.He teaches his team baseball and also teaches his players how 2 be adults.He is also one the finest person around so hide behind your screen name and take jabs at people. Maybe if you ask him he might teach u the game of baseball.

Not a Driller. And I am sure he knows his stuff, I just don't think he knows his place.

I was just wondering.

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Originally posted by DEEPTHREAT:
..... I just don't think he knows his place.

And exactly where would that be? again I ask why is this relevant? I have yet to hear or see and grandstand coaching at a Knights game.

If you don't see him doing it, I am not sure what to say. You know what a tiny area it is behind the plate at Kellam. No need to yell if you are standing there. As to why is it relevant, none of this mess matters! I just think that if my son played for him and tried to do what he is doing I would be run off!

just curious, what exactly are you observing or hearing. I thought the kellam baseball dads watched the games from the football bleachers in right field?
Also curious what your opinion is regarding what the coach should do if he is coaching the game. Is it even possible for him to intervene with a parent that is to the left of the bench on the other side of the home bleachers(I guess this is right?). Are you saying the coach should do something during the game or at a different time, or that he has tried and failed, or is affraid to deal with it? Thanks.

What I am hearing is batting instructions/encouragment. I have great respect for the staff and am not saying anything about what they have tried or what they should try to do about the parent.

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Originally posted by DEEPTHREAT:
What I am hearing is batting instructions/encouragment.

Wait......what? now I am confused, so the "parent Coach" in question is shouting out hitting instruction and encouragement? this bothers you why?

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Originally posted by playright:

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Originally posted by DEEPTHREAT:
What I am hearing is batting instructions/encouragment.

Wait......what? now I am confused, so the "parent Coach" in question is shouting out hitting instruction and encouragement? this bothers you why?

This is comical.

What would your son and/or his coach have to say about you standing 12 feet behind the plate and commenting after every pitch about his stance/ elbow/ what to look for etc. I say simply this...coach em at home and let em play at the game. It doesn't bother ME at all, unless I was the hitter.

I think we all get the “too much Parent involvement” point and agree that can be a huge problem for any team, but here is another possible perspective:
Maybe what the players are "really" hearing is a dad is at the game supporting them and that he is providing the same advice during the game that he and the other "qualified dads" have been teaching the players since they were about 5; for the thousands of times they threw BP. Is it possible the players would find it "bizarre" if they did not hear that type of support during their games?
A coach that has players that were raised by dads that love , live, and know the game and travel with their sons all over the country playing the best competition. If I'm the Kellam Coach I'll take a few "keep closed", "stay off your front foot" comments from the stands to put up with those "Qualified Dads".

That certainly is another possible perspective. My question is this. After all that BP and all those miles, when do the kids start to figure it out on their own or at least try.

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Originally posted by DEEPTHREAT:
That certainly is another possible perspective. My question is this. After all that BP and all those miles, when do the kids start to figure it out on their own or at least try.

Dunno, you obviously know the coach/dad. Why don't you ask him?

Seems to me this thread is officially highjacked and is no longer about the Week 6 Beach District Games and should be moved to the "Here's to you . . .topic"
Good stuff though-

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Originally posted by DEEPTHREAT:
That certainly is another possible perspective. My question is this. After all that BP and all those miles, when do the kids start to figure it out on their own or at least try.

Given Kellam's successes and their individual players successes as Knights and on other teams over the past decade, I think it is safe to say that they already have!

Just a thought (from outside the district):

-- I would hope that at the high school level and beyond, the player (hitter, pitcher, defensive player) would not be able to hear/distinguish "tips" from outside the fence. They should be focused on the game inside the fence and any in game advise that their coaches might provide.

Frankly, if the player is getting advise from outside the fence during the game/play and reacts (i.e. "go to 2nd" or "let the ball roll foul"), they cannot be playing the game at its highest level.

Great call LoudounBases,
A parent will always be a parent whether he is a coach or not. When the parent/coach gives his yell,"two more steps" and the player on second moves two more steps, this is where the problem begins.
If the coaches enforce rules equally for each player, it should not even be an issue. I specifically remember a coach telling a player that if his dad came near the dugout again, the student athlete would not go on the field to play. Are these the rules for all of the players? It would have to be to build the team as a team and not individuals.......