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If I reads the attachments to the BESR thread correctly, the testing performed on metal bats is done with a 70 mph thrown ball, and a 66 mph swing for the NCAA certification. Talk about a rigged test.....

If I read it correctly, is there some logical reason why they're using pitch and bat speeds that would be found at a low level high school JV game? Easier for the metal bats to look safe at lower speeds, no?

The HBO special on this included interviews with college coaches that had gunned balls coming off of metal bats in batting practice at speeds well in excess of 100 mph. I remember the comment being made that it is not humanly possible to react to a ball coming off the bat at those speeds.

As much as I love college football and baseball, why will it take a very visible death in each sport before the football gurus do something about helmets, and the baseball gurus do something about metal bats? When defensive linebackers are 265 pounds of muscle, running at a 4.4 pace, wearing a rock hard headgear, sooner or later a quarterback is going to be lost, and with balls coming off of bats at speeds in excess of 100 mph, sooner or later a pitcher will die. Both of my sons pitch and they love it. I pray it doesn't happen to mine or anybody else's, but it's infuriating to know that it WILL happen, and only then will reform happen.
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If that is the case perhaps we can (somehow through the magic of the web, Bob is it possible?), get a petition of all those who agree together to (1) create a more vaild test for HS and college (2) ask for the elimination of the length/weight differential (the arguement for aluminium bats is cost, by doing this their arguement will be intact and the pitchers will be safer as a result of decreased bat speed) (3) Go to wood and get rid of the metal bats forever (composite and maple last as long or longer than metal, my son who uses metal only during the HS season dents them so badly that I end up buying two..where are my cost savings?).

The petition can be sent to ABCA, HS Coaches associations, and to publications like Collegiate Baseball or BA if not in the form of an article perhaps as an editorial.

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I am for number three, get rid of the metal and go to all wood. No reason whatsoever that High Schools could not go back to wood right away. High School coaches are not on bat maker's payrolls.

I really don't understand about the colleges either, if the switch was made to all wood, the bat makers would make money off of wood bats, they just about all have their own brand of wood bat any way, they could come up with neat names like liquid ash, wicked hickory, maple core or what ever.

CV

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the key word is "ratio" -
taking into consideration the variables of bat speed, pitch speed, & the ball - the new besr legal bats should be pretty comparable to wood (in the lab anyway)- but I guess it depends on who's swinging it too
Smile

and they do measure "ideal wood conditions" for the besr standard - tho it does have a smaller sweet spot & the balance is different so fewer balls will ever actually catch that spot on wood in game conditions

ncaa besr info



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