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Is there any chance Management planned to hire Farrell this year and they just needed someone to fill in for a year? I can see it now, "we'll pay you millions to fill in for a year but here's the catch: you're gone in one year and we need you to act like an idiot so nobody will be surprised when we let you go, and people think we're smarter for firing you than we were when we hired you". Valentine: "I can do that!"

Masterfully done!! What a success! What an actor!
TR - I agree with your comment about Farrell not being a proven manager, but Valentine was a complete and total idiot when it came to dealing with todays players and media.

He's the perfect example of someone out of touch who didn't evolve.

I'm a manager with many 20 somethings reporting to me and the means of motivating this generation is much different than telling a 50 year old to "shut up and color" which they will do, because this is the type of feedback they're used to.

Tell a 22 year old the same thing and they'll ask "color what? can I get paid for that? What is the minimum I need to do to keep getting paid?"

We're turning into Europe, but nobody will say it out loud...
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Originally posted by mcmmccm:
Is there any chance Management planned to hire Farrell this year and they just needed someone to fill in for a year? I can see it now, "we'll pay you millions to fill in for a year but here's the catch: you're gone in one year and we need you to act like an idiot so nobody will be surprised when we let you go, and people think we're smarter for firing you than we were when we hired you". Valentine: "I can do that!"

Masterfully done!! What a success! What an actor!
Farrell signed a three year contract with the Jays two years ago. One year into the contract Francona was fired. Valentine was signed for two years. You do the math. Things didn't go as planned. But the Red Sox got their guy a year early. Valentine wasn't supposed to act like an idiot. He was supposed to act like a professional and win. Had the Sox won a pennant in his two years Valentine may have been retained.
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Mike Matheny wasn't a proven manager either and he seemed to do ok his first year.

I agree somewhat with JMoff, there is a whole new generation out there of different type of players, old school managers and organizations have to adapt these days to them, not the other way around.
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Originally posted by TRhit:
not sure if farrell is the right man


Not sure if ANY man is right for ANY job. Seems like the way the last two Red Sox seasons have gone, everyone wants to argue the choice, no matter who it is.

Farrell makes at least as much sense as Valentine. I say Red Sox fans should be happy, patient and see how it goes.
The real opportunity for success lies within the person and not in the job - Zig Ziglar

Farrell knows the players, organization and fans, and they know him. There is far less risk/more reward with this decision than "he who must not be named."

I consider myself a rabid Red Sox fan. I'm not crazy about a pitching coach being promoted to a manager BUT, I'm willing to get behind this decision. The people make sense, and if he can get the pitching settled and positioned for future success the Red Sox will have flexibility. Why not try something different this time. He is well respected top to bottom in the organization, and that is a great start.
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