So what's everyone's opinion on that move? 
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I really don't know to be honest. They have nosedived last year and this year (kind of) but does a firing with 12 games left solve the problem?
If you're a player do you see it as the organization is
A) doing everything they can to make the playoffs
B) giving up
C) making a panic move
D) off their rocker
If you're a player do you see it as the organization is
A) doing everything they can to make the playoffs
B) giving up
C) making a panic move
D) off their rocker
As a Cub fan I gotta say..I am happy they did it, Yost was good..Maybe Mike Maddux, the staff is losing it..except for Sabathia. The thing is we don't know what is going on behind the scenes though, he could have ****ed off the GM with some assurances that didn't work out or comitting to things or players he didn't follow through on. He may have tipped the balance on morale, they are a young team with outstanding talent and if he was percieved as messing their morale up..well his ticket would get punched.
One things sure..it must have been real bad for them to give him the boot right now.
One things sure..it must have been real bad for them to give him the boot right now.
It lets everybody in the organization know one thing. Win or you are gone. I don't know if it is a good thing. But ownership looks like they are actually trying to win.
If I was a player I would work a little bit harder. But then again, the Yankees are always looking for new players, NY would be a nice change of pace.
If I was a player I would work a little bit harder. But then again, the Yankees are always looking for new players, NY would be a nice change of pace.
MLB is a dog eat dog world, and Yost was wearing Milkbone boxers.
Getting swept by the Phillies may have broke the camels back, sort of speak.
I believe the principal owner, Mark Attanasioo
wanted to do something, with hopes that this unprecedented move, would help the Milwaukee Brewers in their playoff run and the next three games vs Cubs at Wrigley.
GM Doug Melvin agreed with the co-owner, yet also backed Yost a little bit. I wonder what happens to bench coach Ted Simmons, who has been reassigned as an "advisory role", while HoF Robin Yount takes on the bench coach role!
Do I think Yost has paid the price for the shoving matches in the dugout, a suspect bullpen, and the offensive long ball getting very cold? Yes!
First time I can remember a manager, whose team is contending for post season, was fired this late in season with a dozen or less games.
Who remembers "Harvey's Wallbangers"?
I believe the principal owner, Mark Attanasioo
wanted to do something, with hopes that this unprecedented move, would help the Milwaukee Brewers in their playoff run and the next three games vs Cubs at Wrigley.
GM Doug Melvin agreed with the co-owner, yet also backed Yost a little bit. I wonder what happens to bench coach Ted Simmons, who has been reassigned as an "advisory role", while HoF Robin Yount takes on the bench coach role!
Do I think Yost has paid the price for the shoving matches in the dugout, a suspect bullpen, and the offensive long ball getting very cold? Yes!
First time I can remember a manager, whose team is contending for post season, was fired this late in season with a dozen or less games.
Who remembers "Harvey's Wallbangers"?
3 weeks to late IMO. History shows playoff teams don't win with the long ball. Besides the fact that Yost has relied on his starters to carry the load and not challenging the mid inning staff throughout the year, opponents have been pitching away and the Brewers haven't adjusted and changed their approach at the plate.
Brewer fans across the State are hoping for a Cinderella finish, but in my opinion there are too many teams playing well and not enough time for a turn around.
It's kind of sad because there are a lot of pieces of the puzzle that are in place.
Brewer fans across the State are hoping for a Cinderella finish, but in my opinion there are too many teams playing well and not enough time for a turn around.
It's kind of sad because there are a lot of pieces of the puzzle that are in place.
quote:Who remembers "Harvey's Wallbangers"?
Bear,
That was fun baseball in 1982 when Harvey Kuehn took over the team mid-season and led them to the WS before losing in game 7 to the Cardinals. Nice roster with real quality individuals
#4 Paul Molitor
#5 Ned Yost
#7 Don Money
#9 Larry Hisle
#15 Cecil Cooper
#17 Jim Gantner
#19 Robin Yount
#20 Gorman Thomas
#21 Don Sutton
#23 Ted Simmons
#34 Rollie Fingers
#48 Mike Caldwell
#50 Pete Vuckovich
In 2003 my son was drafted by the Brewers out of HS and Harvey Kuehn Jr was the Brewer Midwest Scout. In the summer before my kid started college, and turned down the Brewers, Harvey was over to the house numerous times looking for a sign. He and I talked 1980's baseball quite a bit and his baseball experiences would raise the hair on your arms. The only way I can explain it is.....Imagine being the teenage son of the coach for that team in 1982.
Would that be heaven?quote:would help the Milwaukee Brewers in their playoff run and the next three games vs Cubs at Wrigley.
Not much help when you go against Dempster who has been unbeatable at Wrigley and you are already 6 back...maybe praying the Phills just choke off for the wild card...but the way J Roll is playing right now they better have an inside deal with the pope
Psychologists refer to what they call the "Hawthorne effect" ... change something, watch closely and production will improve.
I think the Brewers are hoping Mr. Hawthorne pays a visit to Miller Park.
I think the Brewers are hoping Mr. Hawthorne pays a visit to Miller Park.
Ah, one of my favorite effects, trojan. 
I think that's exactly the case; what else could they do to give the team a jolt?
I think that's exactly the case; what else could they do to give the team a jolt?
quote:Originally posted by rz1:quote:Who remembers "Harvey's Wallbangers"?
Bear,
That was fun baseball in 1982 when Harvey Kuehn took over the team mid-season and led them to the WS before losing in game 7 to the Cardinals. Nice roster with real quality individuals
#4 Paul Molitor
#5 Ned Yost
#7 Don Money
#9 Larry Hisle
#15 Cecil Cooper
#17 Jim Gantner
#19 Robin Yount
#20 Gorman Thomas
#21 Don Sutton
#23 Ted Simmons
#34 Rollie Fingers
#48 Mike Caldwell
#50 Pete Vuckovich
In 2003 my son was drafted by the Brewers out of HS and Harvey Kuehn Jr was the Brewer Midwest Scout. In the summer before my kid started college, and turned down the Brewers, Harvey was over to the house numerous times looking for a sign. He and I talked 1980's baseball quite a bit and his baseball experiences would raise the hair on your arms. The only way I can explain it is.....Imagine being the teenage son of the coach for that team in 1982.
I see we have some people forgetting a key component of that team - getting old eh?
Seriously, I loved that team. You can't talk about that team without also mentioning Ben Oglive. That was a great World Series as well with the Cardinals. Never forget some of the plays that young Wille McGee made. Never forget Gorman Thomas bawling his eyes out in the dugout after the series was over. It is indeed the greatest game.quote:I see we have some people forgetting a key component of that team - getting old eh? Seriously, I loved that team. You can't talk about that team without also mentioning Ben Oglive. That was a great World Series as well with the Cardinals. Never forget some of the plays that young Wille McGee made. Never forget Gorman Thomas bawling his eyes out in the dugout after the series was over. It is indeed the greatest game.
Dan, you know I did a cut-n-paste of that roster and deleted the "commons" and for some reason Bengie got cut out. Shame on me, he was one of my favorites.
Didn't Willie McGee get the nickname ET in that series? He had a real tiny noggin that sat on his shoulders, it looked almost animated, at least to Brewer fans, but he saved the Cards that whole series.
Two blue collar teams that played with passion and guts. It was a shame someone had to lose.
I had a friend/former teammate on the team. I used to hang out with him when they came to town. It was a wild bunch. Anything you ever heard is probably true. The only rule they had was show up ready to play.quote:Originally posted by Bear:
Who remembers "Harvey's Wallbangers"?
I could tell some stories, and over adult beverages.
Ned Yost and Ted Simmons might have jobs
is they were as loose today, as they were back then!
(I guess Principal Owners and Canadian GM's of today do that to ya.
OBTW: McGee's knickname was ..... PinHead!
cheers
Bear
postscript: My son and grandson live outside of Madison. At 1 y/o, he's a pretty good looking switch hitting 3b! (Granddad can plug like that.....so can GrandMa's.....eh!....see you at Miller Park, or maybe last call at the Duck Pond)
Ned Yost and Ted Simmons might have jobs
is they were as loose today, as they were back then!
(I guess Principal Owners and Canadian GM's of today do that to ya.
OBTW: McGee's knickname was ..... PinHead!
cheers
Bear
postscript: My son and grandson live outside of Madison. At 1 y/o, he's a pretty good looking switch hitting 3b! (Granddad can plug like that.....so can GrandMa's.....eh!....see you at Miller Park, or maybe last call at the Duck Pond)