Brian Roberts just fessed up

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The Orioles are the first team to criticize the methodology of the Mitchell report in public, although several players have criticized the report.

The inclusion of Orioles second baseman Brian Roberts in the report has raised concerns around baseball. In many instances — like that of shortstop Miguel Tejada, who played for the Orioles for the past four seasons but was traded the day before the report was released — Mitchell had documentary evidence that tied players to purchases. But in Roberts’s case, Mitchell’s investigators did not have documents.

“The Orioles further believe that each major league player must be treated on an individual basis, must not be judged responsible by mere association, and is innocent of any improper conduct until proven otherwise beyond a reasonable doubt.”

....or until they confess later the same day. This thing is FUBAR.

NYTimes 12/17/07

I was right, didn't I? from the first roids post I told all of you that more than 80% of players have used it. And I told you that no only the super stars did it, and I told you that most of the pitchers also used it. So, because the use of roids was so general, and the whole baseball organization knew it about it, the solution is to forget the pass and start from now on, banning for life the users.

I think what we are going to see are a lot of admissions of "I tried it once or twice and decided not to continue". I'm skeptical of such admissions, but maybe they're true. I'll be more convinced when someone owns up to using steroids or HGH more than "a few times."

Maybe baseball players will go back to looking like baseball players? Dont worry about the hr numbers though. They will just juice the ball some more.

Coach May

Keep in mind that #1, yes ,the balls are wound tighter and secondly the players are bigger "naturally" today-- A bigger pitcher with a bigger hitter and a baseball wound tighter results in more HRS.


It is a fact that the CLEAN players are still bigger and stronger than they were 10/20 years ago

These idiots are acting like a bunch of teenagers who just got caught drinking.... "but officer, I only had two beers!"

They continue to insult our intelligence by "confessing" to using one time or only using HGH to recover from injury. What a crock.

Just admit you did it to get ahead... you did it to get a better contract and make more money... you did it because everyone around you was doing it... in other words - BE HONEST. What a concept!

Great analogy, "I only had two beers..." So true!

Is that like "I did not inhale"?

Just another case of admission/denial. Why can't a player come out and say:

"I did it. All of what they said was true. I am sorry, but it gave me an edge and I wanted to make money, and that's exactly what happened."

From Brian Roberts to Andy Pettitte to Fernando Vina and F.P. Santangelo, they have all "fessed up."

Roberts said he used steroids just once and felt bad. "Yes I used, but...only once."

Pettitte said he used HGH but..."only to recover from an injury."

I heard Vina say the same on ESPN yesterday, adding "I didn't take HGH for an edge...just to help me recover"

F.P. was the most candid, talking on his radio morning show in Sacramento about it, saying he was desperate and he "used HGH, BUT...never steroids like they said."

They may be all telling the truth, but I am seeing a disturbing trend in all of these "admissions."

John Smoltz was on the Jim Rome radio show yesterday saying that he is tired of all these guys "confessing" after their name comes up in a report. To paraphrase, he was saying that all these guys, "Deny, deny, deny, until the moment where there is too much evidence against them and they say 'Uncle, you got me!'"

When is someone going to come out and say they used, what they used, when they used, and how it benefitted them. And will this ever happen BEFORE their name comes up in a report?

I still haven't heard a guy aside from Canseco say "Steroids and/or HGH took me to a new level. It made me bigger, faster, stronger, and I owe many of my paychecks to it."

I think the majority of us know that last quote is the real truth, yet none of these "confessions" have really stated that.

If a player truly wants to "come clean," say something along those lines and quit playing everyone for a fool.

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Originally posted by hokieone:
Great analogy, "I only had two beers..." So true!

Beer?....It's not beer...It's cervesa!!!

You noticed they not only waited until after the report... they waited until the public perception was out too...

There's an amazing connection with these players. They all got caught the one time they took PED's.

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Originally posted by RJM:
There's an amazing connection with these players. They all got caught the one time they took PED's.

Dang unlucky folks, them MLB players, ain't they?

Anyone noticed or mentioned this other oddity among three of these players.

Brian Roberts, listed 5'9/170
Fernando Vina, listed 5'9/170
FP Santangelo, listed 5'10/165

Geez, how small would these guys be without PEDs?

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Originally posted by PGStaff:
Anyone noticed or mentioned this other oddity among three of these players.

Brian Roberts, listed 5'9/170
Fernando Vina, listed 5'9/170
FP Santangelo, listed 5'10/165

Geez, how small would these guys be without PEDs?

About this small?

http://www.jockbio.com/Bios/Roberts/Roberts_bio.html

I do not believe any of them that they did steroids only once. It is popular to say about those that have now admitted to doing steriods that at least they are man enough to admitt the use. A real man does not cheat for any reason. A real man does not wait till he is caught to confess. Let's not dumb down the definition of what a real man is. Remember the only reason the players are now coming foward is that the got CAUGHT.