Buehrle to Hall of Fame?

So I guess I have another question related to this. Is there any one statistic that could guarantee a player entry into the Hall or at least give him a leg up?

For example, three of the top ten all time base stealers are not in the hall...Tim Raines, Vince Coleman and Willie Wilson.

Thats a good question, im wondering that myself. i think throwing a perfect game or breaking the single season home run record (61) should be sufice with a decent career

Sure, 3000 hits will get you in.

27 players have reached 3000; only Pete Rose (banned) and Craig Biggio (5 years aren't up yet) aren't in the Hall.

I don't think a perfect game or breaking a single season record is good enough. To do them the planets, moon and stars have to align to get it done. I'm not trying to minimize these accomplishments but anybody can get get lucky and do these things.

To me the Hall of Fame is about consistency over a long period of time. I would rather see a guy get in who has been great over a period of time than a guy who got lucky.

I have never been a big Buehrle fan but he has two of the best pitching performances in the history of the game. Overall he's a 133 - 91 pitcher with a 3.78 ERA which is not bad but not sure it's HOF caliber. If he pitches another 10 years at his current pace he will only be a 266 pitcher. He's not a big strike out guy and probably never will become one.

So in other words he's a good consistent pitcher who successful teams need but I can't pull the trigger on the HOF talk.

Buehrle needs to win a Cy Young, win 20 games at least once, he needs to have a few years better than his current best year, and then pitch until he's 40 or so.

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It depeds really on whether the player has honestly earned consideration.





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I didn't check this, but is there a pitcher who won 300 games that isn't in the HOF?

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Originally posted by Holden Caulfield:
I didn't check this, but is there a pitcher who won 300 games that isn't in the HOF?

No

The three classic numbers for "guaranteed" enshrinement were 3,000 hits, 300 wins, or 500 homeruns. I am not sure if 500 homeruns works anymore.

If Buehrle were to average 15 wins for the next 10 years, that will give him 283 for his career and he will be 40 years old. I believe Burt Blyleven has 287 and has yet to get in. If Burt does not get in, then Buehrle would not deserve to get in imho. Before we even have that conversation however, Buehrle needs ten years of solid pitching from this point forward. I don't think his body will hold up that long. We'll see.

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Originally posted by Holden Caulfield:
I didn't check this, but is there a pitcher who won 300 games that isn't in the HOF?

I am not certain , But Iam sure of this .Randy Johnson will be the last 300 win pitcher

A Shoo in for sure!

Shoo-ins ... 3,000 hits, 500 hr's, 300 wins (p). I believe the new number for pitcher's wins will drop to 200-250 with the advent of the six inning quality outing (gag).

This guy pitched a perfect game. Actually it wasn't completely perfect. It was pitched in Cleveland. Len Barker was a career 74-76 with a 4.34 back when that was a poor ERA.

When a player pitches a no-hitter or a perfect game the ball goes to Cooperstown, not the player.