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come on guys- i'm an unabashed dr/colonial district guy, but know nothing outside the district. looking for some insight from the pros!
I'll say region finals look a lot like Dominion District finals.
You'd have to have a crystal ball to get these right.
The easier one for me is Cosby-Godwin. Surprisingly, neither team is putting up a lot of runs right now. I think that continues, because Godwin has Garrett ready to roll, while Cosby has both Birnbaum (who already has experience pitching at the Diamond from last year, so he won't be intimidated at all) and Carpenter ready. I think Cosby has the edge in pitching in that if one starter falters they have a "plan B" that is more likely to be effective.
One thing you learn over time is that if you're looking at a nip-and-tuck kind of game, Cosby will end up on top. They do all the little things to get the extra run here and stop one more run there. This could be a 4-3 kind of game, and if I'm right about that, you could bet the ranch that Cosby will win it somehow.
James River v. Deep Run is really a mystery to me. James River's offense has been very lackluster for some time now, and their lack of aggressiveness on the bases leaves them pretty much wedded to the big inning. They got just enough yesterday, but trying to do that repeatedly is a **** shoot.
Pitching wise, I think JR's having to use Scheetz so much yesterday puts their hopes pretty much on Roberts returning to form. If Roberts has no more stuff tomorrow than he did at Cosby last week, they are toast. If he's "on" and can go at least 5 innings, maybe you can get 1 out of Scheetz and one out of Kirby to pull it out. But that's a lot of ifs.
But Deep Run has its own pitching questions. Boyle is spent and Brooks is on the shelf at least for the time being. I hear lots of talk about "Coach doesn't like this guy" or such, but in the end he's going to have to start somebody. If the guy from the Godwin game, whom I've never seen in action, throws that kind of a game again, then I think DR will win. But if someone doesn't step up on the big stage to throw effectively, JR wins.
One thing for sure, Jack Roberts has the experience in big venues and he will not be intimidated by pitching at the Diamond. If his MPH is down like last week that won't be enough, but if he's 100%, then I look for him to go deep in the game effectively.
As for the championship game, it looks like despite both having deep pitching, whichever of JR or DR advances will have run through their main guys by the end of Wed's game. So I would bet on whoever wins Godwin v. Cosby to win the region and thus the home game in the state quarterfinals. And I'm betting that's Cosby.
The easier one for me is Cosby-Godwin. Surprisingly, neither team is putting up a lot of runs right now. I think that continues, because Godwin has Garrett ready to roll, while Cosby has both Birnbaum (who already has experience pitching at the Diamond from last year, so he won't be intimidated at all) and Carpenter ready. I think Cosby has the edge in pitching in that if one starter falters they have a "plan B" that is more likely to be effective.
One thing you learn over time is that if you're looking at a nip-and-tuck kind of game, Cosby will end up on top. They do all the little things to get the extra run here and stop one more run there. This could be a 4-3 kind of game, and if I'm right about that, you could bet the ranch that Cosby will win it somehow.
James River v. Deep Run is really a mystery to me. James River's offense has been very lackluster for some time now, and their lack of aggressiveness on the bases leaves them pretty much wedded to the big inning. They got just enough yesterday, but trying to do that repeatedly is a **** shoot.
Pitching wise, I think JR's having to use Scheetz so much yesterday puts their hopes pretty much on Roberts returning to form. If Roberts has no more stuff tomorrow than he did at Cosby last week, they are toast. If he's "on" and can go at least 5 innings, maybe you can get 1 out of Scheetz and one out of Kirby to pull it out. But that's a lot of ifs.
But Deep Run has its own pitching questions. Boyle is spent and Brooks is on the shelf at least for the time being. I hear lots of talk about "Coach doesn't like this guy" or such, but in the end he's going to have to start somebody. If the guy from the Godwin game, whom I've never seen in action, throws that kind of a game again, then I think DR will win. But if someone doesn't step up on the big stage to throw effectively, JR wins.
One thing for sure, Jack Roberts has the experience in big venues and he will not be intimidated by pitching at the Diamond. If his MPH is down like last week that won't be enough, but if he's 100%, then I look for him to go deep in the game effectively.
As for the championship game, it looks like despite both having deep pitching, whichever of JR or DR advances will have run through their main guys by the end of Wed's game. So I would bet on whoever wins Godwin v. Cosby to win the region and thus the home game in the state quarterfinals. And I'm betting that's Cosby.
quote:Originally posted by Midlo Dad:
You'd have to have a crystal ball to get these right.
The easier one for me is Cosby-Godwin. Surprisingly, neither team is putting up a lot of runs right now. I think that continues, because Godwin has Garrett ready to roll, while Cosby has both Birnbaum (who already has experience pitching at the Diamond from last year, so he won't be intimidated at all) and Carpenter ready. I think Cosby has the edge in pitching in that if one starter falters they have a "plan B" that is more likely to be effective.
One thing you learn over time is that if you're looking at a nip-and-tuck kind of game, Cosby will end up on top. They do all the little things to get the extra run here and stop one more run there. This could be a 4-3 kind of game, and if I'm right about that, you could bet the ranch that Cosby will win it somehow.
James River v. Deep Run is really a mystery to me. James River's offense has been very lackluster for some time now, and their lack of aggressiveness on the bases leaves them pretty much wedded to the big inning. They got just enough yesterday, but trying to do that repeatedly is a **** shoot.
Pitching wise, I think JR's having to use Scheetz so much yesterday puts their hopes pretty much on Roberts returning to form. If Roberts has no more stuff tomorrow than he did at Cosby last week, they are toast. If he's "on" and can go at least 5 innings, maybe you can get 1 out of Scheetz and one out of Kirby to pull it out. But that's a lot of ifs.
But Deep Run has its own pitching questions. Boyle is spent and Brooks is on the shelf at least for the time being. I hear lots of talk about "Coach doesn't like this guy" or such, but in the end he's going to have to start somebody. If the guy from the Godwin game, whom I've never seen in action, throws that kind of a game again, then I think DR will win. But if someone doesn't step up on the big stage to throw effectively, JR wins.
One thing for sure, Jack Roberts has the experience in big venues and he will not be intimidated by pitching at the Diamond. If his MPH is down like last week that won't be enough, but if he's 100%, then I look for him to go deep in the game effectively.
As for the championship game, it looks like despite both having deep pitching, whichever of JR or DR advances will have run through their main guys by the end of Wed's game. So I would bet on whoever wins Godwin v. Cosby to win the region and thus the home game in the state quarterfinals. And I'm betting that's Cosby.
Thanks for the insight. Agree that it's usually the case that whoever has a quality pitcher left at the end has a huge advantage.
wonder how many pitches Kirby threw against Atlee? Maybe 60? He may be able too provide some significant innings by Thursday if they can get a full game out of Roberts.
Godwin looked to be a pretty strong hitting team that Brown held in check.
Deep Run's other guy is Jimmy Wiederman I think. I have to believe he gets the ball since he got them there.
I feel like the senior led teams get a slight advantage...this will potentially be their last high school game and I am sure they will battle to make sure it isnt.
Godwin/Cosby is a geat coaching match up with two experienced coaches.
Godwin looked to be a pretty strong hitting team that Brown held in check.
Deep Run's other guy is Jimmy Wiederman I think. I have to believe he gets the ball since he got them there.
I feel like the senior led teams get a slight advantage...this will potentially be their last high school game and I am sure they will battle to make sure it isnt.
Godwin/Cosby is a geat coaching match up with two experienced coaches.
I'm not sure any coach in the region is a great coaching matchup with Tim Lowery . Sure there are others who have had as much success, longevity, etc.
This isn't meant to be a slight to anyone (although as we've seen, reading comprehension isn't always a strength around here). There are other great coaches- just to name a few, Morano has run the best program of the last 20+ years at Godwin, Charlie Dragum is one of the best around, Schrad has pulled Henrico from the abyss, JR folks love Schumacher, Kenny Lewis just keeps on producing strong teams. Fred Stoots at Matoaca has kept a good thing going after taking over for Grant O'Dell. This isn't meant to be an exhaustive list of guys that do a good job.
But with all due respect, I think everyone in the central region would trade their coach for Tim Lowery. He is the best, and I think even the other coaches would agree for the most part.
This isn't meant to be a slight to anyone (although as we've seen, reading comprehension isn't always a strength around here). There are other great coaches- just to name a few, Morano has run the best program of the last 20+ years at Godwin, Charlie Dragum is one of the best around, Schrad has pulled Henrico from the abyss, JR folks love Schumacher, Kenny Lewis just keeps on producing strong teams. Fred Stoots at Matoaca has kept a good thing going after taking over for Grant O'Dell. This isn't meant to be an exhaustive list of guys that do a good job.
But with all due respect, I think everyone in the central region would trade their coach for Tim Lowery. He is the best, and I think even the other coaches would agree for the most part.
Just to be clear, following all the colonial teams a lot this year, Jimmy Weidmann only threw 5 innings the entire season prior to the Godwin game, against Thomas Jefferson and Maggie Walker. Im not sure its fair to say he got Deep Run to where they are....... Lane or Gardner is my best guess as to who gets the ball tomorrow.
Gotta believe Garrett gets the ball in the 2nd game. Should be interesting to see how he does. He had been pitching STELLAR before a not so good outing in the Colonial championship game, will be interesting to see how he does tomorrow!
Gotta believe Garrett gets the ball in the 2nd game. Should be interesting to see how he does. He had been pitching STELLAR before a not so good outing in the Colonial championship game, will be interesting to see how he does tomorrow!
quote:Jimmy Weidmann only threw 5 innings the entire season prior to the Godwin game, against Thomas Jefferson and Maggie Walker.
I'll guess the question that all the Deep Run folks would posit:
"And why exactly was that? It is now apparent that the kid can pitch."
cosby win a close one over godwin....deep run cruises by james river in the early game. in finnals cosby wins a slugfest
"Cruises by JR"..I'll take that bet. 
I agree with you on Cosby winning a close one. That's the Cosby way, after all. I have James River in a close one in the other game. JR vs Cosby, Part 4 in the regional final. That's what I thought before the season, so I'll stay with it....
I agree with you on Cosby winning a close one. That's the Cosby way, after all. I have James River in a close one in the other game. JR vs Cosby, Part 4 in the regional final. That's what I thought before the season, so I'll stay with it....
knew that would draw some comments.... i think they have a chance but 'cruising'?!
I like Deep Run's chances if they play a clean game defensively.
agreed- but with the loss of 2 pitchers, others are going to have to step, too.
quote:the loss of 2 pitchers
I know Brooks is unavailable. Boyle isn't "lost", he was just used on Monday. Or is there someone else "lost" that I don't know about?
not a big name, but there is another junior out for the tournament.
i saw all 8 teams play monday - if i evaluate the teams by position and performance i say deep run crusies.
Fair enough. I'm just saying you've lost your mind! Just messing with ya...if Deep Run cruises, then I'll start a post, singing your praises
quote:Originally posted by Papelbon:
Fair enough. I'm just saying you've lost your mind! Just messing with ya...if Deep Run cruises, then I'll start a post, singing your praises
i'll be singing PERIOD....
I know I am swimming against the current!
Have been all year.
But based on what I saw out there and putting all the hype aside thats what my gut tells me.
If Atlee doesnt load the bases on mistakes and walk in two runs we would be wondering if Atlee or Deep Run would win today.
Dont have to sing my praises but dont beat me up either if I am wrong!
Have been all year.
But based on what I saw out there and putting all the hype aside thats what my gut tells me.
If Atlee doesnt load the bases on mistakes and walk in two runs we would be wondering if Atlee or Deep Run would win today.
Dont have to sing my praises but dont beat me up either if I am wrong!
DR v. JR will be won by pitching and coaching. Both teams have a great deal of talent. Should be fun to watch.
Of the remaining teams i think godwin has the most pitching left so that could be a factor. Although they have to contend with a scorching Cosby squad.
I am sticking to my all dominion district prediction but at this stage all four teams are very dangerous and capable of dominant performances.
Should be a great day as long as the weather holds.
I am sticking to my all dominion district prediction but at this stage all four teams are very dangerous and capable of dominant performances.
Should be a great day as long as the weather holds.
According to @CRTomGarrett on twitter, James River is up 4-0 after two. Jack Roberts has five strikeouts already.
6-0 after three innings. Looks like this one may get ugly.
Who is pitching for DR?
Jrhs cruised. Jack roberts cruised through 5 allowing 2 unearned runs. Kit scheetz came in and cruised through the last 2 innings.
Jrhs 8
Deep run 2
James river cruises on to the states.
Jrhs 8
Deep run 2
James river cruises on to the states.
Separate thread on the Godwin win over Cosby. I bet on Cosby above, good thing I didn't put any money where my mouth was there.
The JR-DR game to me was over when Roberts came out with his A stuff back. He smoked the first two guys and although Deep Run's Jansen Fraser nailed one 395' to CF, Michael Trentham reeled it in. DR's only scoring happened after the game was pretty much decided and that happened only when the third strike on the potential third pitch went wild to allow a runner to score and the inning to get extended so that a second run scored on an infield hit with a throwing error added.
JR scored in the first when Casey Jones took a pitch in the ribs, moved to third on a hit by Mac Caples, and scored on a sac fly by Trentham. Three runs on the 2nd, 2 in the third including a sac fly by Caples that just missed being a grand slam. Caples had an RBI triple that keyed the 2-run 5th that cinched it. Kit Scheetz made short work of DR in the last two innings. Also noteworthy, Garrett Bardenheier had a big game for JR with a double and a sac fly, 3 RBI and a stellar catch in left.
Deep Run started Patrick Gardner and it just wasn't destined to be his day. Joe Layne finished and did a decent job of keeping things from getting worse, showed a great downer curve, but Roberts and Scheetz kept the game from ever getting tight.
The JR-DR game to me was over when Roberts came out with his A stuff back. He smoked the first two guys and although Deep Run's Jansen Fraser nailed one 395' to CF, Michael Trentham reeled it in. DR's only scoring happened after the game was pretty much decided and that happened only when the third strike on the potential third pitch went wild to allow a runner to score and the inning to get extended so that a second run scored on an infield hit with a throwing error added.
JR scored in the first when Casey Jones took a pitch in the ribs, moved to third on a hit by Mac Caples, and scored on a sac fly by Trentham. Three runs on the 2nd, 2 in the third including a sac fly by Caples that just missed being a grand slam. Caples had an RBI triple that keyed the 2-run 5th that cinched it. Kit Scheetz made short work of DR in the last two innings. Also noteworthy, Garrett Bardenheier had a big game for JR with a double and a sac fly, 3 RBI and a stellar catch in left.
Deep Run started Patrick Gardner and it just wasn't destined to be his day. Joe Layne finished and did a decent job of keeping things from getting worse, showed a great downer curve, but Roberts and Scheetz kept the game from ever getting tight.
I think JR is relieved to see Cosby exit. Cosby had their number, was maybe even in their heads. Now they will likely see Carson Stephens, whom they handled with ease earlier this year. Only thing is, I think Roberts, Kirby and Scheetz are all spent. JR will have Nick Parnell, Trey Rose and Tyler Carrico to choose from.
I think this might be a 10-8 kind of game unless someone is really "on".
I think this might be a 10-8 kind of game unless someone is really "on".
Actually in the Godwin /James river game JR got 6 runs in the first inning off Reid Garratt. Stephens came in and gave up on a run or two after the first inning. he kept JR in check. Godwin is in pretty good shape pitching wise.
Sorry, I thought I had that straight. They do resemble each other though, don't you think?
the game Reed Garrett pitched is the best outing I have seen all year...maybe in the last three years.
If the right person saw that game kid may get drafted on Monnday!
Also a shout out to Birnbaum and Carpenter who did an awesome job.
those were clearly the two best teams in the tournament..a shame they had to meet in the semi finals and not the finals.
If the right person saw that game kid may get drafted on Monnday!
Also a shout out to Birnbaum and Carpenter who did an awesome job.
those were clearly the two best teams in the tournament..a shame they had to meet in the semi finals and not the finals.
Ditto on Birnbaum and Carpenter. It was a game none of the pitchers deserved to lose.
Only other game I saw in person this year that matched this one was Benedictine's 1-0 win over Godwin at Godwin. Zach Joseph threw the prototype "crafty lefty" game including picking off 4 runners. Lees dominated, something like 17 K's, but in the end the game was decided when a 2-out pop up with the runner going was allowed to drop.
Seems like the true pitcher's duels tend to come down to some cruel fate like that.
Only other game I saw in person this year that matched this one was Benedictine's 1-0 win over Godwin at Godwin. Zach Joseph threw the prototype "crafty lefty" game including picking off 4 runners. Lees dominated, something like 17 K's, but in the end the game was decided when a 2-out pop up with the runner going was allowed to drop.
Seems like the true pitcher's duels tend to come down to some cruel fate like that.
quote:the game Reed Garrett pitched is the best outing I have seen all year...maybe in the last three years.
Agreed. Garrett's pitching performance was outstanding, and very impressive. He had command of the fastball and slider, and mixed them up well. He worked fast, and that caught Cosby a few times as they couldn't slow the game down. Godwin senior catcher did a great job of blocking those sliders in the dirt that the Cosby hitters were chasing.
Birnbaum and Carpenter also pitched well.
To be honest - as good as Garrett's performance was I didn't even think it was the best outing of the regional tournament. Michael Boyle's 1 hitter against a 18-1 Dinwiddie team was the performance of the week.
anyone know how many K's Reed had?
quote:Originally posted by hsbasballfan:
anyone know how many K's Reed had?
I believe R. Garrett had 8 strikeouts for the game. All were swinging except for 1 looking in the 6th. He struck out the side in the 1st.
After an outing like that coach may be scratching his head on who he pitches in first game of states....a great problem to have
You start one and you have a quick hook if the starter has an off day, knowing that the next guy could well shut 'em down the rest of the way. Then you worry about game 2 only if and when you get there.
Generally Lees has been more consistent, so he starts the quarterfinal. You also get a fresher arm in that situation, which lends itself to a bit more zip on the fastball.
And, if you get to the third game (state championship), since their third guy is a righty who looks very similar to Garrett, having a contrasting guy works better than having two guys who look a lot alike. That is, if the other team starts nailing your starter, do you want to have to bring in another guy in the same mold?
Generally Lees has been more consistent, so he starts the quarterfinal. You also get a fresher arm in that situation, which lends itself to a bit more zip on the fastball.
And, if you get to the third game (state championship), since their third guy is a righty who looks very similar to Garrett, having a contrasting guy works better than having two guys who look a lot alike. That is, if the other team starts nailing your starter, do you want to have to bring in another guy in the same mold?