Anyone have information on this school and program? Have shown great interest in my son.
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They have a nice schedule with good exposure.
They are a small D1 program trying to get to a 500 record and improving.
The coaching staff is improving as well.
They just announced last week that they are adding lights to the field. This should certainly help with recruiting. Former player Tyler Thornburg made his debut last year. I believe his dad used to post here, but I cannot remember his user name.
Anyone else with recent feedback on the school and program?
They have been up and down in the years my 2 sons have played them. Charleston is a neat place to live but very expensive. Campus is nice. The facilities still will need some upgrades but the lights will definitely help.
My last post was 10 years ago. They are 163 in RPI.
They tried a tough schedule this season and not really sure that it worked out in their favor.
@Francis7 posted:Anyone else with recent feedback on the school and program?
They lean heavy on transfers. I would look at them if coming out of JUCO or the portal, but would be cautious out of high school.
@d-mac posted:They lean heavy on transfers. I would look at them if coming out of JUCO or the portal, but would be cautious out of high school.
They seem to have a larger freshman class slated for this fall - PG is showing 14 2023 commits with only 4 designated by PG as pitchers. Early 2024 class on PG shows only 5 - 2 of which are shown as pitchers. Looks like they have a healthy number of seniors/grad this year that will largely roll off.
Any thoughts on this program now that they have a new HC?
CSU is located in a hotbed area of many top programs in the country.
The coach has to win to keep his job so that includes big fall numbers until rules change.
Francis7, if they offer for nice money you can't beat the experience and competition. JMO
I find it interesting that some colleges publish a fall roster of 50+. And others don't post a roster at all until spring - many of those are notorious over-recruiters.
@anotherparent posted:I find it interesting that some colleges publish a fall roster of 50+. And others don't post a roster at all until spring - many of those are notorious over-recruiters.
There is no limit for fall. That's the problem. The season roster has to be up before the first day of competition.
The problem is because of the House Settlement, it's a crazy time.
I know. My point is that some schools do post a fall roster, and others don't.
If you are looking at schools for recruiting, you need to look to see if there is a fall roster. If you find one, you can get a sense of what how they are recruiting
- do they have 50 in the fall? In that case, they are obviously going to cut 20% of those players.
- or, do they list 40 in the fall? and are those 40 the same players as in the spring?
But lots of schools don't post any roster in the fall, so you can't get that info directly.
You lost me. No one has to post a fall roster. Pretty stupid if you did if you had 50+ on it.
@anotherparent posted:I know. My point is that some schools do post a fall roster, and others don't.
If you are looking at schools for recruiting, you need to look to see if there is a fall roster. If you find one, you can get a sense of what how they are recruiting
- do they have 50 in the fall? In that case, they are obviously going to cut 20% of those players.
- or, do they list 40 in the fall? and are those 40 the same players as in the spring?
But lots of schools don't post any roster in the fall, so you can't get that info directly.
@anotherparent IMHO, it should be mandatory for schools to post their fall rosters by Oct 15.
We started publishing fall rosters in 2022 as a spring projection.
This year 221 out of 307 have publish full or partial rosters
@CollegebaseballInsights posted:@anotherparent IMHO, it should be mandatory for schools to post their fall rosters by Oct 15.
I suppose that "roster" in the fall is variable. The athletic scholarship players are by definition "on the roster". Then there's everyone else who is coming to practice, i.e. "trying out". Even if they don't know that's what they are doing.
The spring roster is a definite thing: you can only play in games if you are on the roster.
@CollegebaseballInsights posted:This year 221 out of 307 have publish full or partial rosters
How many are full, and how many are partial? A partial roster that just lists returning players is about as meaningless as nothing at all. Doesn't tell you how many are "trying out".
@TPM posted:Pretty stupid if you did if you had 50+ on it.
Exactly.
@anotherparent posted:I suppose that "roster" in the fall is variable. The athletic scholarship players are by definition "on the roster". Then there's everyone else who is coming to practice, i.e. "trying out". Even if they don't know that's what they are doing.
The spring roster is a definite thing: you can only play in games if you are on the roster.
How many are full, and how many are partial? A partial roster that just lists returning players is about as meaningless as nothing at all. Doesn't tell you how many are "trying out".
Exactly.
@anotherparent If you read the article, it will tell you how to find the answer you are looking for. As for partial roster being meaningless, it depends on what a user is looking for.
It tells most player attrition rate due to graduation, mlb draft, transferred out.
As for trying out for spring team, use last year's spring roster size * 125% to 140%
Coaches do not have to post fall rosters.
That's it in a nutshell.
Some here need to realize that the times they are a changing.
For those not familiar with the process, do your homework!!!
@TPM posted:Coaches do not have to post fall rosters.
That's it in a nutshell.
Some here need to realize that the times they are a changing.
For those not familiar with the process, do your homework!!!
@TPM It is understood, they don't have to post fall rosters. The point is transparency, and doing one's homework is to have relevant information available.
Now you can ask said coach "How many players to you normally have during the fall?"
And he may or may not answer.
I personally know 2 kids who have been affiliated with the program. One was unhappy enough to leave for his sophomore year (he chose to leave after his freshman season, had 30+ abs) to go the JUCO route. He made it to JUCOD1 WS and is playing D1 now. The other is TBD...
