Coaching Behavior

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After the second game win, he walked off without saying a word to the team.

hey it worked they won the second game

Interesting thought. So how you judge the decision/behavior is based on the outcome of players and a game had nothing to do with.

TX

Certain coaches reach players in certain ways

I have my way--others have theirs. If it succeeds in wins then I guess you can say he got his point across---At least he did not sit outside the dugout and cost his kids a game

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I have my way--others have theirs.

That sounds like something you wouldn't do...and I wouldn't think you would TR from what I have read of your posts. What bothers me most about it is, and this is a parent speaking, I think he quit on his players. The coach wouldn't stand for a player walking off and not playing game 2 (nor should he). Why should the players and parents (who pay him) allow it from him?

Just because you pay him (?) you don't own him

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Just because you pay him (?) you don't own him

I never suggested there was ownership...but there is employment. The question I presented to start with was as an employer of a coach, would this cause you to change your mind about that employment.

I don't think you need to fire him... it sounds to me like he quit.

I'd have someone else in the job and when or if he does come back then you can fire him. Not so much for the little tantrum between games but if he left after the second game without a word; not even a 'practice is tomorrow at 3pm' or whatever... I would just say the guy quit.

Not sure he gets fired.....but he certainly needs to reevaluate the way he does his job. Making a point is one thing - actually walking out on your kids is no way for a grown man to react and shows poor character. Hard to respect a guy like that.

I have done something like that myself. I was coaching a Legion team and it was obvious my kids did not feel like playing that day so I decided to go through the motions. Didn't call one play nor did I say one thing to the players. After the game one of the players asked what was wrong and I said, "You guys didn't care so why should I." I never had that problem again. In regards to the statement about it being childish sometimes if you want to make a statement you must make on the player's level, you can only preach and beg so much.

Thanks for the comments...that's what I asked for. Guess you had to be there to understand. It's hard to translate in words without first hand situational & historical context.

Let's see...the team lost with his coaching and won without his coaching.

I don't know what lesson he thought he was teaching them, but I'm sure it wasn't the one they learned.

I teach high school. If I ever left my classroom because I was pi$$ed off and wanted to teach my students a lesson, I'd certainly get fired.

If a coach lacks motivational skills to the point the team works better without him...well, sort of speaks for itself.

I doubt anyone would care to be judged by their worst day at work, nor would any player care to be judged by one bad game. Does the coach have a history of this kind of behavior? In a way I'd respect the coach more for not reacting to the win. What did he say to the team at the following practice or game? From afar, with limited knowledge of the situation, I'd say message sent and rec'd.

"Does the coach have a history of this kind of behavior?" Not of walking out but yes on boarderline behavior (I'll stop there).

"What did he say to the team at the following practice or game?" Nothing, he acted like nothing ever happened. I spoke to 3 different players (who are not the dummy types) and they don't know why he did it; so, I would say message was not received.

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Originally posted by Tx-Husker:
"Does the coach have a history of this kind of behavior?" Not of walking out but yes on boarderline behavior (I'll stop there).

"What did he say to the team at the following practice or game?" Nothing, he acted like nothing ever happened. I spoke to 3 different players (who are not the dummy types) and they don't know why he did it; so, I would say message was not received.

Messages are always received. They are just not always the ones intended to be sent.

What did he teach his players? If you dont like the way things are going just quit. This was childish behavior and its behavior that would cause a coach to kick a kid off a team. IMO he quit on his team and he should be replaced.

Have I wanted to do the same thing before? Yeah. I have wanted to do alot of things before. But you have to set the proper example for your players and you never do anything to your team you would not accept your team to do. He is done anyway. Dont you think the players have written him off anyway?

"Messages are always received. They are just not always the ones intended to be sent"....That was my point, the one he intended to send wasn't received. You're right.

"What did he teach his players? If you dont like the way things are going just quit."...That's what I think he taught them.

"But you have to set the proper example for your players and you never do anything to your team you would not accept your team to do."...agree 100%

"He is done anyway. Dont you think the players have written him off anyway?"...from my observations, yes.

The question would be, what would a coach do if a player walked off from his team?

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The question would be, what would a coach do if a player walked off from his team?

Exactly. But I'm sure he would let the player come back the next game and act like nothing happened at all.

You cannot equate the two situations

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You cannot equate the two situations

So, do as I say, not as I do, huh?

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Originally posted by Tx-Husker:

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You cannot equate the two situations

So, do as I say, not as I do, huh?

If anyone should be excused for childish behavior, it should be the child, not the adult.

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Originally posted by TRhit:
You cannot equate the two situations

Exactly, the coach should be held to a higher standard.

TX-Husker,As we all know, all coaches, assistant coaches, referees, umpires and officials are or should beyond approach and must display total professional personalities at all times while in contact with their peers, especially during practice sessions and game times, every sport has a coach, parent, player, official and spectator codes of ethics and rules which must be covered during a pre-season meeting so all persons involved are aware of how important they are and that they must be abided by without question, people who act as the person you mentioned acted violated every aspect of any sports code of ethics and should be dealt with accordingly, all youth and/or young adult sports or other organizations in particular must have high standards, if not we are sending out the wrong message to our young people, As parents, teachers and coaches etc. we help mold the lives of our young and very impressionable people.I think that that coach pretty well summed the coaching situation by being totally immature and walking off,if they didn't play up to his expectations then he needed to teach them how to play better, he simply is blaming them for his childish,uncalled for attitude which certainly was and is not needed under any circumstances, if your board members allow this kind of behavior from their coaches etc. I would have very little respect for them,I was involved with a similiar but a more serious youth hockey situation the season before last,I no longer have any respect for them after the out come of their decision of the incident, I have higher standards than they do on these types of violations and I no longer have enough respect for them to still be affiliated with them. There are absolutely no excuses for his behavior and none should be allowed, our young people deserve much more than what yours received, No if's, ands, buts, or, at least he didn't do this or that, I rest my case.
Don Ervin.
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