College Division effect draft?

Can you get drafted if you are a D2, D3 or NAIA player?
ABSOLUTELY!!!

But if you were to look at previous drafts (looking at college players only), it is dominated by D1 players.

PG Staff probably has the stats........others might as well.

thx for the reply jb...any1 else have any input to this subject?

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Ok im just wondering if someone who plays at a D1 school is anymore likely to get drafted then someone who goes to a DII,DIII or NAIA school?

There's a couple of ways to think about this. First, let's take a look at the players who are drafted out of a 4 year college, excluding those drafted from high school or JC. The overwhelming majority of these draft picks are from D1 schools. D3 contributes about 20 per year; I don't know about D2 but I guess it is similar to D3. Last year NAIA had 34 players drafted, with 2 in the top 10 rounds. In rough numbers, perhaps 5-7% of 4 year college draftees come from non-D1 schools, and most of those are drafted in the later rounds where the odds of making an appearence in MLB are low. So if the only information we had about a player was that he played in D2,D3, or NAIA, we'd say the odds of being drafted are low.

But professional scouts don't award "points" based on the division of play-- they're trying to identify talent. I suspect that a player who is very talented and skilled as a college junior would have about the same chance of being drafted whether he played at a D1 or at a "lesser" division.

The thing to remember here is that while on average non-D1 schools don't have a lot of draftees, the average is completely unimportant to an individual player. His chances depend on his own particular makeup and talent.

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The thing to remember here is that while on average non-D1 schools don't have a lot of draftees, the average is completely unimportant to an individual player. His chances depend on his own particular makeup and talent.

3FG,

That is true to an extent, but it is much easier to be discovered and followed closely at the DI level. The DI's are scouted quite a bit heavier in most cases. I fully agree with your assessment of the numbers, they are fairly unimportant when it comes to an individual.

However, I do think there are DIII players that sometimes get overlooked, under valued and missed completely that are capable of playing professional baseball. This happens more in some parts of the country than others. Places where an area scouting supervisor has a very large territory to cover.

thanks for the replys

For example lets say we have 2 players:

Player A: D1 .300 15hr 40 rbi 10sb

player b: D2 .350 20hr 50rbi 20sb

just based and statistical performence which players draft probability would seem better? either going in a earlier round or just getting drafted at all...would the D1 get the nod just because his level of competition is most likly better even though the D2 performed better in his division(numbers are just used for example since im not sure of another way to show it)

Just remember folks, you have to be on the field for a scout to see you. Not all D1 players get much playing time until sophomore year. How many times have we heard about sons leaving the big D1 because of playing time issues. I agree in the big programs, the level of talent is greater so hence they would be scouted more.

tbone,
I think you are trying to illustrate two players who are pretty equal in talent but have different stats based on their level of play.
What often gets left out in terms of the draft is recognizing the additional aspects being considered.
One very important aspect for each player would be how they have done with wood and how they produced in a Summer Wood bat league where the level of competition might be more equal and aluminum is removed from the equation.
The other important aspect to distinguish the players is which is still projectable and improving as contrasted with the player who has max'd his talent level with little projected room for improvement.
If these additional aspects are equal, it is likely the DI player will be picked before the DII player.
Because these types of "intangibles" exist, you will find DIII, DII and NAIA players selected when DI players with solid stats are not.
Even with that said, I have seen pitchers and hitters at Stanford get drafted when they have very few innings pitched or few if any AB's in a season. I am sure that is true of other top tier DI programs, also where projection based on size and potential talent is more important than production and playing at the collegiate level.

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For example lets say we have 2 players:

Player A: D1 .300 15hr 40 rbi 10sb

player b: D2 .350 20hr 50rbi 20sb

just based and statistical performence which players draft probability would seem better? either going in a earlier round or just getting drafted at all...would the D1 get the nod just because his level of competition is most likly better even though the D2 performed better in his division(numbers are just used for example since im not sure of another way to show it)

It's possible that someone hitting .250 might be considered better than either one of them and get drafted before either one of them.

Of the two examples you mentioned the one who would be most likely to be drafted first would be the one who has more raw power, better speed, better defensive ability, better arm, more projectable, better makeup, plays a more premium position, has more of a history, is seen the most, is the better player and many other things.

U of Alabama plays at the very top level of DI. They have a player who was named SEC Player of the Year (Deservedly so). He is a senior, meaning he has no leverage and should be a very easy sign. He’s even a former Aflac All American in high school. He has very good tools and makeup. This year he hit .358 with 28 Homeruns and 81 RBI. He led the nationa in homeruns, playing against some of the best pitching in college baseball.

If stats were important, he will be a very early pick in the first round. However, many others with far less sparkling stats will be selected before him. (Maybe)