quote:Originally posted by Rob Kremer:
This is an interesting and timely thread for me. It is a question I have been wondering about lately - to what extent and in what circumstance I should, as a parent, communicate with coaches who are communicating with my son.
I've heard parents here speak about calling coaches to gague their true interest after receiving a letter or questionairre.
Some wise folks have said you are not being recruited until the head coach calls himself
My tendency has been to stay out of it, but to make sure my son was following through on things with coaches (send back the questionairres, send occasional emails to stay in touch, etc.)
Great advice
One of my friends became very close to his son's college coaches. His son graduated a couple years ago and the coach still calls him.
I think there are too many pre concieved views here. Staying away from the coach isn't going to help, getting in his face isn't going to help either. Most parents get this so why go on about the bad ones. Personally I have only seen a few who would fall into the over zealous parent who was dumb enough to get into the coach enough to tick him off.
Most people know that it can hurt their son's if they are a pain. I always just enjoyed the moment and never complained unless it was to myself in the car or far from the ball park.
Some of the so called bad parents had son's who had great D1 careerers in the South so apparently they slipped through the gauntlet.
I think there are too many pre concieved views here. Staying away from the coach isn't going to help, getting in his face isn't going to help either. Most parents get this so why go on about the bad ones. Personally I have only seen a few who would fall into the over zealous parent who was dumb enough to get into the coach enough to tick him off.
Most people know that it can hurt their son's if they are a pain. I always just enjoyed the moment and never complained unless it was to myself in the car or far from the ball park.
Some of the so called bad parents had son's who had great D1 careerers in the South so apparently they slipped through the gauntlet.
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quote:Originally posted by Coach May:
I felt as a parent it was my job to help him get in situations where he could be seen by college coaches playing the game. It was then up to him to show them he was capable of playing for them. When the coaches started to communicate with him I stayed out of it. It was time for him to do the talking. I offered him advice but never offered any advice or anything else to the college coaches. When he made his decision I supported it. Its his gig not mine. He is the one that will have to make it work. I will just be one of the people that will be there to support him anyway I can and the whole team any way I can.
I dont expect to talk to the coaches. If they want to talk to me thats fine. But I see no reason they ever will need to do that. They can talk to my son he is the one playing for them not me.
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quote:Originally posted by Rob Kremer:
This is an interesting and timely thread for me. It is a question I have been wondering about lately - to what extent and in what circumstance I should, as a parent, communicate with coaches who are communicating with my son.
I've heard parents here speak about calling coaches to gague their true interest after receiving a letter or questionairre.
My tendency has been to stay out of it, but to make sure my son was following through on things with coaches (send back the questionairres, send occasional emails to stay in touch, etc.)
As a parent there is always the reflex to do things for your kids. It is hard to resist, actually.
But I have resisted that urge, and from what I am reading here, that seems to be a wise choice.
Sounds about right to me Rob.
What you are doing is very similar to our role in my son's recruiting process a year ago. About the only time my wife or I got involved was to deal with logistical issues surrounding unofficial visits.
As my son was coming down to decision making time I did actually receive a couple of calls. Not to ask what I thought, they were primarily calling to see if I could tell them where my son's head was at. When my son finally made his decision on where he wanted to go the only real question he asked his mom and I... Are you guys okay paying the difference? Gee, it's nice to be needed.
Prior to my son signing his NLI we exchanged informational emails and such, but not afterwards. His coaches are very warm people and I'll run into them at a Summer game and say "hi", pleasantries such as "how's the team?" etc. But my son is a man and he is going to have to sink or swim on this deal on his own now!
So I guess I've changed jobs. I was fired as "marketing manager" and now I'm a "personal consultant".
So I guess I've changed jobs. I was fired as "marketing manager" and now I'm a "personal consultant".
Bum,
You were promoted to "personal consultant" it is a definately richer and more rewarding position to hold in your son's life!
You were promoted to "personal consultant" it is a definately richer and more rewarding position to hold in your son's life!
BUM I felt the same. I actually was dissapointed the marketing came to an end. I enjoyed it. My son and I discussed things and I actually learned a lot about him.
Thsi whole question of marketing and seeling does get caught up in semantics. The most successful companies market their goods and that is part of selling. Marketing exposes the goods to a vast crowd and selling is getting the people to but the goods.
Anyone who thinks selling is a dirty word they are kidding themselves. Yes you can go to showcases and play on top travel teams and get exposure. You are marketing your son. We chose an inexpensive route that worked very well and it is a viable approach for anyone who can show talent.
Could we have done the same at a strong BB school if that was our goal ? Absolutely.
For examplae I have guys thyat my son played against at Arizona State. Also Ron Davis former Yankee reliever has a son there and Ron loved my son. So if Arizona State was a school we wanted I would have contacted Ron and talked to the coach and sent videps of my son pitching against a current JR at his college. That is marketing. You find things that open the door long enough to get your foot in and show what you have. I know Ron would say great things about my son since he invited him to workout with him and said he had MLB talent. You use what you can to get an opportunity.
There is an elite team here called The Ontario Blue Jays who have players drafted and put in top colleges. We could have paid the $10,000 to play for them but we couldn't afford it. He pitched very successfully against them and I used the video and most college coaches knew who they are and some of the players.
I am not talking about just sending stuff to a coach I am talking about thinking about what you are trying to accomplish. always be polite but somewhat forcefull. This is an adults job and not a son's job in my opinion.My son only came in when the coach wanted to verify he was interested in their program. I always made sure that we understood the team player concept. I have shots that I included with his teammates with their arms around him which sells this idea that he was loved by his mates. I have a beautiful shot of his catcher with his arm around him afte an outting in the Jays Skydome. I love that picture. It tells the coach something very important.
Thsi whole question of marketing and seeling does get caught up in semantics. The most successful companies market their goods and that is part of selling. Marketing exposes the goods to a vast crowd and selling is getting the people to but the goods.
Anyone who thinks selling is a dirty word they are kidding themselves. Yes you can go to showcases and play on top travel teams and get exposure. You are marketing your son. We chose an inexpensive route that worked very well and it is a viable approach for anyone who can show talent.
Could we have done the same at a strong BB school if that was our goal ? Absolutely.
For examplae I have guys thyat my son played against at Arizona State. Also Ron Davis former Yankee reliever has a son there and Ron loved my son. So if Arizona State was a school we wanted I would have contacted Ron and talked to the coach and sent videps of my son pitching against a current JR at his college. That is marketing. You find things that open the door long enough to get your foot in and show what you have. I know Ron would say great things about my son since he invited him to workout with him and said he had MLB talent. You use what you can to get an opportunity.
There is an elite team here called The Ontario Blue Jays who have players drafted and put in top colleges. We could have paid the $10,000 to play for them but we couldn't afford it. He pitched very successfully against them and I used the video and most college coaches knew who they are and some of the players.
I am not talking about just sending stuff to a coach I am talking about thinking about what you are trying to accomplish. always be polite but somewhat forcefull. This is an adults job and not a son's job in my opinion.My son only came in when the coach wanted to verify he was interested in their program. I always made sure that we understood the team player concept. I have shots that I included with his teammates with their arms around him which sells this idea that he was loved by his mates. I have a beautiful shot of his catcher with his arm around him afte an outting in the Jays Skydome. I love that picture. It tells the coach something very important.
Let me tell you something right now.
Who are the one's that started this uniform start date of Feb.22
Those are the ones I want to have a talk with??
Is it baseball season yet?
EH
Who are the one's that started this uniform start date of Feb.22
Those are the ones I want to have a talk with??
Is it baseball season yet?
EH
EH I totally agree. Let the games begin for Gods sake! Im ready to talk about the games and hear everyone tell us about how their kids are doing in them. This is the longest off season in history. Its time to start playing some baseball.
Coach May, btw, when does your h.s. season start? My son's h.s. team will play its first scrimmage (16-18 innings!) this coming Monday.
The official start date for practice is 2-11 and our first scrimmage is 2-16. We have been doing 8 man stuff since school started and off season workouts since July. I can't wait to finally get going. Yesterday we had pitchers and catchers , bull pens , pfp , bunt defense etc. Im just ready to get all the guys on the field and get this thing rolling.
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One more reason to play JC ball..Younger has had 4 games already...two more this weekend...
...YEE HAW!
Will play 15 games before older at DI even starts...
Love these new DI rules...
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One more reason to play JC ball..Younger has had 4 games already...two more this weekend...
...YEE HAW!
Will play 15 games before older at DI even starts...
Love these new DI rules...
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I hear you 44. Im going to a D-2 dbl this Saturday. Its about a 2 1/2 hour drive. But thats nothing when you got to have a baseball fix.