College sports sure has changed

It took awhile for things to change much.

 

 

 

I was thinking in terms of college sports.

The college kids are still dippin', just not at games.

Not college sports but...
Son was in puerto rico for winterball. The japanese guys smoked in the dugout as they are allowed in japan and everyone else had beers in hand when they werent playing. 
And there are plenty of athletes who smoke and many who dip as Dad04 pointed out.
FWIW marijuana use is prevelant in the NFL and not considered a ped in baseball. So I have been told.  I dont even think MLB suspends for that.

Not sure that I fully understand why players are allowed to dip while playing, nicotine is a stimulant.

 

Mlb doesnt test for pot. MILB does.The fall after my sons first year they came to our house and tested him The guy said he had been on random list for a while. Also said they dont test Milb guys in off season until after world series is over.

You are right, no test for pot for MLB same as in NFL I believe.

But I don't think that milb players get suspended until after their second offense? 

NFL - Browns Josh Gordon likely to face a year long suspension due to failed pot test.  At the same time, I believe NFL is in the process of changing it's stance on pot penalties (lessening). 

 

I can only imagine how much of a problem PEDs really are in the NFL with the constant demands to be biggest, strongest, fastest and with the extreme punishment the bodies take and the need to be amped up every time a player takes the field.  My guess is that the handful that get fined/suspended every year are the unlucky token sacrificial lambs to make it look like there is a policy in place that is actually a meaningful deterrent.  And, back to the OP, I wonder how much is prevalent in college football. 

RJM  my take from that is even back then  the athletes had at least an inkling into a correlation between smoking and conditioning i.e... getting winded. Physical culture was still in its early stages then and considered a cult by many.

Not just 120 years.

 

I played D3 football 35 years ago and thought I was a serious athlete.  My effort/ability level wouldn't make many squads today.  

NFL does test for pot. I think you're thinking of the NBA, but your point is still a good one.

 

Personally, I wouldn't want my athlete doing any of these, but if I had a choice and had to choose, I would MUCH rather my kid be smoking pot than cigarettes, dip, chew, or alcohol. This from a physical health point of view only. Of course, we live in Colorado, so...

Yeah, but could you have made it through one of Bear Bryant's camps?

"College sports sure has changed"

 

My former college sport has changed tremendously but not in the ways most of you've described.   I played college tennis 30+ years ago in the era of McEnroe, Lendl and Wilander.  Today, college tennis programs recruit mostly foreign players and it is not just the big D1 programs.  Very few Americans are playing college tennis these days because they are not as good (or as hungry) as their international counterparts.  Tennis has always been an international sport, but not to the extremes we see today.  Is the international recruiting phenomena in college tennis a precursor to college baseball?  Possibly.  We know how important it is for some of these programs to win.  I wouldn't bet against an SEC, ACC, or PAC-12 team seeking any edge they can get.  JMO.

 

As far as the athletes and the training it is vastly different.  Tennis has become a power game, and the players are much, much bigger just like baseball.  It would be extremely difficult for a 5'11" 165 lbs (my former dimensions) college tennis player to effectively compete against today's athletes (I know because I hit with them on occasion).  It would take serious speed and talent to overcome the 6'5" guys hitting 125mph aces with the new racquets.