Consistent rules

Would it be easier and make sense to have one code and adapt to age, certainly. The problem is it will never happen. Each governing body has to have it's finger in it's book to make it their own. Fed, wants high school sports to be a learning experience, encourage participation and stress safety. This is why some of their rules are different. Some are to try to over simplify the rules and usually ends up confusing the issue. NCAA is like Fed to a degree but a little less strict. Youth leagues generally use pro rules and add their age adaptations for their system.
As to some states adopting some Fed rules and not others, that is a state system thing. I can't begin to explain why they do that.

FED is the biggest problem. NCAA is very close to OBR, with many of the differences arising from the standpoint of player safety.

For some reason, FED chooses to take perfectly good rules, perfectly suitable for high school baseball, and "modify" them to make them more difficult to enforce, usually with no sense to them. An example would be balking the pitcher for turning his shoulders to check a runner, even before beginning the stretch. Thankfully they corrected this, but even the correction is flawed (for some reason, FED allowed the shoulder turn until F1 "brings his hands together" rather than coming set like the rest of the world). It leads me to believe the FED rules makers are a bunch of suits who have never held a bat in their hands.

Coach you are certainly "preaching to the choir" here.....It would be a tremendous help if we could all agree on one code....

But as MST states that will not happen.......each level/governing body/locality always wants to touch the code in some way or another with their rules.

For those of us who call multiple codes, there can be OBR/NFHS/NCAA and their associated mechanic manuals to consult when doing these level games.....

Not to forget the summer leagues of LL/USSA/PONY/Cal Ripken/DIXIE/Legion to name just a few......

Your quote of "If an ump does OBR one day and FED the next he might get a little confused." is correct

This does happen.....and from an Umpire training veiw point, it is often hard to get umpires from one level to keep rules from one code from bleeding into games of another......

Dash is correct that the most aggravating can be NFHS who will come up with a rule.....market its enforcement agressively........then merely a year later drop it.....leading to much aggravation from coaches, players and umpires......

and baseball is that unusual
football also has pro, ncaa and nfhs rules, and cfl from the north if your close to the border
basketball, s****r, all have different codes. and yes and can be confusing as an official

Football though are mainly safety changes...

Basketball is bad too. They have women and men's rules , then different according to governing body.

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Originally posted by Bulldog 19:
Football though are mainly safety changes...

Oh I only wish. The NFHS and NCAA rules have over 200 significant differences between them. Everything from timing to penalty enforcement and beyond.

In our tournament we use major league rules with the DH and EH allowed if so desired----this solves a lot of problems

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Originally posted by TRhit:
In our tournament we use major league rules with the DH and EH allowed if so desired----this solves a lot of problems

You wish.

The Spawn Of Satan is the OBRs

garth

What is your problem?

Don't trip on your alll non knowing ego as you go out the door

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Originally posted by TRhit:
garth

What is your problem?

Don't trip on your alll non knowing ego as you go out the door

He is a troll, masquerading as a well known and respected umpire from other forums such as http://forum.officiating.com .

The troll was run out of O.com on a rail and has evidently decided to take refuge here, aquiring the identify of "Garth" in the process, right down to his signature and location.

It is best to put him on your ignore list and pay him no mind.

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Originally posted by Welpe:

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Originally posted by TRhit:
garth

What is your problem?

Don't trip on your alll non knowing ego as you go out the door

He is a troll, masquerading as a well known and respected umpire from other forums such as http://forum.officiating.com .

The troll was run out of O.com on a rail and has evidently decided to take refuge here, aquiring the identify of "Garth" in the process, right down to his signature and location.

Garth is my real name and who are you? I took a look at that forum, what a bozo bin. I suppose you are a King there. Why not stay?

Garth

Don't push your luck---Garth IS NOT your name--I have the info on you

Look in the mirror if you want to see a bozo

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Originally posted by The All Knowing Garth:

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Originally posted by Welpe:

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Originally posted by TRhit:
garth

What is your problem?

Don't trip on your alll non knowing ego as you go out the door

He is a troll, masquerading as a well known and respected umpire from other forums such as http://forum.officiating.com .

The troll was run out of O.com on a rail and has evidently decided to take refuge here, aquiring the identify of "Garth" in the process, right down to his signature and location.

Garth is my real name and who are you? I took a look at that forum, what a bozo bin. I suppose you are a King there. Why not stay?

Oh fitty you know exactly who you are and who I am. Leave Garth and his name alone.

What does your trolling have to do with "Consistent Rules? Go hijack another thread on the Bozo Bin, King.

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Originally posted by The All Knowing Garth:
Garth is my real name and who are you? I took a look at that forum, what a bozo bin. I suppose you are a King there. Why not stay?

This is getting interesting. I suppose a moderator can't prove or disprove what you claim your name to be. But surely they can trace your IP address to see where you're posting from.

And he aint in Washington State

There are many on here who know who he as he has been banned from other baseball sites already

I nominate the all knowing garth for banishment from this website.

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Originally posted by Jimmy03:

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Originally posted by The All Knowing Garth:
Garth is my real name and who are you? I took a look at that forum, what a bozo bin. I suppose you are a King there. Why not stay?

This is getting interesting. I suppose a moderator can't prove or disprove what you claim your name to be. But surely they can trace your IP address to see where you're posting from.

Most assuredly can which is why the real trolls bleat nonsensically.

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Originally posted by TRhit:
Garth

Don't push your luck---Garth IS NOT your name--I have the info on you

Do you? Then spit out this great wad of intellect.

Waiting....

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Originally posted by The All Knowing Garth:

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Originally posted by TRhit:
Garth

Don't push your luck---Garth IS NOT your name--I have the info on you

Do you? Then spit out this great wad of intellect.

Waiting....

YOU, Sir, cannot be the Great Garth Benham. I spat and spit with him with frequency! You, Sir, cannot hold an altar boi's candle to The Great Garth.

I taught him everything he knows, Sir.

I have been on this site for several years. reading this has nothing to do with baseball. Can we move on here

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Originally posted by Will:
I have been on this site for several years. reading this has nothing to do with baseball. Can we move on here

Right! Umpires and coachies never argue!!!

Hi folks, I see that there has been a little trouble brewing in the past couple of days, evidently with some brand new members coming over from another forum.

New members are very welcome if they are here to discuss baseball and show some basic respect and consideration for other members. Honest disagreement is fine as well, as long as it's handled in a civil and decent way. But if a new member comes on and appears only to be trying to stir up trouble for amusement, that's something we don't need to accept. Please feel free to PM me or click the little triangle button below each post to report a pattern of problem posts.

Thanks!

Julie

Our Board Manners page:
http://hsbaseballweb.com/board_manners.htm

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Originally posted by MN-Mom:
Hi folks, I see that there has been a little trouble brewing in the past couple of days, evidently with some brand new members coming over from another forum.

New members are very welcome if they are here to discuss baseball and show some basic respect and consideration for other members. Honest disagreement is fine as well, as long as it's handled in a civil and decent way. But if a new member comes on and appears only to be trying to stir up trouble for amusement, that's something we don't need to accept. Please feel free to PM me or click the little triangle button below each post to report a pattern of problem posts.

Thanks!

Julie

Our Board Manners page:
http://hsbaseballweb.com/board_manners.htm

Another female, I don't feel so alone. Thanks to you, Julie!