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TexasBoy2011 - Our son (RHP) is going to Cornell next year as freshmen to play for Coach Walkenbach. My son's decision was based on both academics (engineering), athletics, and the coaches. He knew fairly quickly after meeting the coaches, touring campus and reviewing the academics that is where he wanted to go. Everyone's criteria is different, but for us Cornell had everything he wanted. He was very actively recruited by D1, Ivys, and top notch D3 programs. You can send me a PM if you want more details. Good luck.
TXB2011,
You have posted questions here about Ivy and other academically elite east coast schools. If you are truly interested in these schools may I suggest that you seriously consider attending the Stanford Baseball Camp. All of the Ivy schools, and several of the east coast colleges (Georgetown, BC, etc...) looking for students who can compete in the classroom and on the field attend this camp. Look here for information:
http://www.stanfordbaseballcam.../registrationpg.html
You will get a chance to meet every Ivy coach in attendance. My son (from TX) was seen here and was recruited by several Ivy colleges, BC, Navy, etc... These colleges don't get down to TX very often. It is not too late to request an application to camp.
You have posted questions here about Ivy and other academically elite east coast schools. If you are truly interested in these schools may I suggest that you seriously consider attending the Stanford Baseball Camp. All of the Ivy schools, and several of the east coast colleges (Georgetown, BC, etc...) looking for students who can compete in the classroom and on the field attend this camp. Look here for information:
http://www.stanfordbaseballcam.../registrationpg.html
You will get a chance to meet every Ivy coach in attendance. My son (from TX) was seen here and was recruited by several Ivy colleges, BC, Navy, etc... These colleges don't get down to TX very often. It is not too late to request an application to camp.
I dont see how anyone goes to the Stanford prospect summer camp or frankly most of the other summer camps at the colleges. The dates for
Stanford on their web are in July at a time when virtually every high level travel team is at a tournament. Who is going to these camps and how could a player who is on a high level travel team and committed to that team decline a tournament and go to such a camp. Same thing when I looked at a Pinceton summer camp and many others.
Stanford on their web are in July at a time when virtually every high level travel team is at a tournament. Who is going to these camps and how could a player who is on a high level travel team and committed to that team decline a tournament and go to such a camp. Same thing when I looked at a Pinceton summer camp and many others.
Albanybbdad: You have to mix in tournaments with school showcases. Any travel team coach is going to understand this. I am not aware of any tournament that draws more high academic schools July 1-4 than the Stanford camp. (or the Headfirst camp just before it)
Albanybbdad --
If you are looking for camps for this summer and are interested in schools attending the Princeton Advanced Camp, I would highly recommend it. It was in August when my son went, and was great value for the money. It was about $550 which included accommadtions in the campus dorms and food for the four days. Mornings were instructional and afternoons were live games. The boys were divided up into teams for the duration, with coaches assigned from the attending colleges. I believe each team played four games. There are a lot of two day showcases that cost more than this and don't include lodging or food.
My son really enjoyed it. In addition to the actual baseball instruction and games, it is really a camp where you meet many other players and get to spend time hanging out with them at meals and in the evenings and other free time. If you are interested in the schools that are there, your son will get a lot of exposure to them. My son did not attend the Stanford or Headfirst camps, so this is not a comparison to them. Just thought that as you are in Albany, Princeton would be a reatively easy trip for you.
If you are looking for camps for this summer and are interested in schools attending the Princeton Advanced Camp, I would highly recommend it. It was in August when my son went, and was great value for the money. It was about $550 which included accommadtions in the campus dorms and food for the four days. Mornings were instructional and afternoons were live games. The boys were divided up into teams for the duration, with coaches assigned from the attending colleges. I believe each team played four games. There are a lot of two day showcases that cost more than this and don't include lodging or food.
My son really enjoyed it. In addition to the actual baseball instruction and games, it is really a camp where you meet many other players and get to spend time hanging out with them at meals and in the evenings and other free time. If you are interested in the schools that are there, your son will get a lot of exposure to them. My son did not attend the Stanford or Headfirst camps, so this is not a comparison to them. Just thought that as you are in Albany, Princeton would be a reatively easy trip for you.
There are a few we are looking at. TPX academic in CT, Headfirst in Long Island at Baseball Heaven, the Princeton Advanced Camp and NJ Twins Academic. Obviously attending them all would greatly interrupt the travel season and be expensive as well. My son, an Outfielder, 1B and relief lefty pitcher as need. But a 2012 and we are being told by many to wait until after Jr year to do these. Also, many parents I e mailed are replying back that they did fall and winter showcases at many of the colleges in the fall and winter of Jr year to get exposure and avoid travel ball conflicts. Too many players attending these during July and August would clearly impact the teams
quote:Originally posted by Albanybbdad:
Too many players attending these during July and August would clearly impact the teams
I suppose then, parents and players must choose their priority, college or travel ball. What exactly is it that you win, if your travel ball team goes undefeated?
Hi again Albanybbdad -
My son attended the Academic East TPX showcase in Hartford in June after his junior year, the same summer he attended the Princeton camp in August. They are very different as I am sure you have seen if you looked at the websites...the TPX showcase offers much more limited playing time, but in front of many more schools. I believe my son got to pitch to five hitters at the TPX showcase, vs. a few innings in two different games at Princeton. We thought the Princeton camp was better for our son, but part of that was that there were three schools in attendance at Princeton that were high on his list, including his top choice.
The TPX showcase ended up being a day and a half as the Sunday afternoon activities were cancelled due to rain. As I'm sure you will do, you have to look closely at the list of schools if you are looking for a particular fit. My son was specifically looking for high academic DIII, and so their were really only three or so schools there that were in his target group, as many in attendace were DI or DII. For us, the smaller group at Princeton actually included more of his top choices. If you would like any more feedback on these camps, please feel free to PM me and we can use email or I would be happy to talk by phone.
My son attended the Academic East TPX showcase in Hartford in June after his junior year, the same summer he attended the Princeton camp in August. They are very different as I am sure you have seen if you looked at the websites...the TPX showcase offers much more limited playing time, but in front of many more schools. I believe my son got to pitch to five hitters at the TPX showcase, vs. a few innings in two different games at Princeton. We thought the Princeton camp was better for our son, but part of that was that there were three schools in attendance at Princeton that were high on his list, including his top choice.
The TPX showcase ended up being a day and a half as the Sunday afternoon activities were cancelled due to rain. As I'm sure you will do, you have to look closely at the list of schools if you are looking for a particular fit. My son was specifically looking for high academic DIII, and so their were really only three or so schools there that were in his target group, as many in attendace were DI or DII. For us, the smaller group at Princeton actually included more of his top choices. If you would like any more feedback on these camps, please feel free to PM me and we can use email or I would be happy to talk by phone.
Yale Camp is similar to Princeton. Room and Board are provided for the fee and coaches included Brown, Columbia, Yale, Cornell, Georgetown, Wesleyan, MIT (visiting), New Haven, Franklin and Marshall, and Dickinson. It was very well run and the coaches are in the dugout with the players, actually coaching the teams during games. They also had a great Q&A discussing the nuances of Ivy and academically selective college recruiting. If your son is good enough, this or Princeton might be a great camp to attend before his Junior year. It will get him on the radar.
It is not what we win if the travel team goes undefeated. It is that it is his first season with a high level travel team . He is a Soph and obviously is serious about the committment he makes to a team and love of the game. He is looking to further develop his abilities with this team which has excellent coaching and travels to basically the top events for exposure. As the players get older they have a great track record for college recruiting. That is the goal. To find a good academic and athletic match for college. Obviously the team cannot have any substantive number of players out at showcases at the same time or the tournament play would not be feasible. I will see if the issue comes up at the team meeting next month or raise it. I am sure that would still be early enough to register. For distance and financial purposes, Stanford is not going to be in the budget. Princeton and Yale would. Also, anyone have any participation previously in the NJ Twins Academic Showcase in NJ? It is in August although the 2010 dates have not been posted as of yet. It is likely too early, but I assume that there are fall and winter events that draw high academic schools and others in the Northeast and that may be the answer.
CPLZ, I take it from your avatar that you probally have or had a son that played At Army, how did he get noticed by service acadamies and is the process any different?
I'm sure that CPLZ has a better insight as to the entire process but as far as getting noticed, I don't think the process is any different. Army saw my son at a showcase (PG Academic) and called him. My son was not interested but was very impressed with the coach. I do have a former player that ended up getting in without baseball and made the roster as a walk on.
quote:Originally posted by TexasBoy2011:
CPLZ, I take it from your avatar that you probally have or had a son that played At Army, how did he get noticed by service acadamies and is the process any different?
Junior is a junior at Army. He got noticed by Army at WWBA championships at Jupiter.
As far as your question about the process, are you talking about getting noticed or recruitment? Recruitment is a bit different, as coaches from Service Academies can actually start calling and contacting players at a much earlier age. This is due to the length of the admission process it takes. That being said, Army saw Junior in October, and offered him admission at the end of February...so if they want you bad enough, things can get done quickly.
Burnt Orange...who was your player that made the team as a walk on?
If anyone is interested in the Ivy Schools I would highly recommend contacting them to find out how and where they go to look for players. They are the ones who know! People should understand that from a talent standpoint they compete at the DI level and are looking for DI talent along with the necessary academic accomplishments.
Back to the original question by "TexasBoy2011"
You did mean the Cornell in the Ivy League, correct? Reason I ask... There is also a Cornell that is a DIII college with an outstanding academic reputation. They actually had a player drafted last year by the Dodgers.
Back to the original question by "TexasBoy2011"
You did mean the Cornell in the Ivy League, correct? Reason I ask... There is also a Cornell that is a DIII college with an outstanding academic reputation. They actually had a player drafted last year by the Dodgers.
CPLZ,
John Buckley. His Dad and I had a very successful select team all from the same small area in West Houston, from the time our boys were 8 until 14. In fact that got me thinking that of the original team of 12 eight year olds there are 7 DI players (Rice, Baylor, TCU, Texas State, Nichols State, Army, UAB (football) and 3 DIII's (Trinity University (2), Williams College). John is a wonderful young man and his family is terrific. I hope you get to meet them.
John Buckley. His Dad and I had a very successful select team all from the same small area in West Houston, from the time our boys were 8 until 14. In fact that got me thinking that of the original team of 12 eight year olds there are 7 DI players (Rice, Baylor, TCU, Texas State, Nichols State, Army, UAB (football) and 3 DIII's (Trinity University (2), Williams College). John is a wonderful young man and his family is terrific. I hope you get to meet them.
I saw Buckley pitch the last game of fall ball and was impressed. He's a sidearm/submariner with great arm action and the batters don't react well to picking up the ball coming out of his hand. I will not be surprised if he gets a number of opportunities this coming season in middle relief or even closing a game or two. Especially if he comes in after one of our starters who are all 89-93 and Buckley comes in slinging that low rising stuff at 72.
Although I didn't get the opportunity to meet him over the fall, I'm sure I will next week at Wake Forest for Army's opener. I'll be he's traveling with the team, I'd be very surprised if he's not.
Although I didn't get the opportunity to meet him over the fall, I'm sure I will next week at Wake Forest for Army's opener. I'll be he's traveling with the team, I'd be very surprised if he's not.
PG- Yes the Ivy League Cornell is the one i was asking about. Thanks for all of this feedback.
