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Okay I want to begin by saying I live in Wyoming and there is no H.S. ball here we play American Legion in the summer and that's it, we do get plenty of games in though.

I'm a first baseman and a pitcher. I see myself as being more likely to advance with my position playing than my pitching.I'm 6' 0" and about 207.

I've applied to University of Wyoming and Utah State University, both teams have club teams not really a varsity team at all.

Anyhow here are my hitting stats for last season, summer and fall combined.

avg .346/obp .455/35 rbi/2 hr/8 2b/.485 slg/.940 ops
I had 101 at bats.

Nobody kept pitching stats so idk what my stats were for sure but I felt I did pretty well.

The problem is I doubt I would pitch in college due to my unique style of pitching, I'm a knuckleballer, I have some cold heat and an okay curve and an okay change but nothing special besides my knuckler.

Thanks for any input.
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CitrusZilla,

It's difficult for anyone to judge your ability to play at the college level based on hitting stats, because we don't know the level of pitching and defense that you were hitting against.

What year will you graduate?

And would it be possible for you to play on a travel team this summer which plays some tourneys where college coaches will be watching? If no travel teams work for you, have you considered attending a respected showcase where there will be other college-bound players?

Also, when you mentioned being a knuckleball pitcher, it made me think of the D3 team that my son played on in college (he was a 2004 HS grad). The D3 team had one knuckleballer who got innings in the right situations, mostly in relief. And some D3 colleges have a few 2-way players, though it's rare.

Julie
Okay well I am graduating this year, I am probably going out for club teams to begin with at University of Wyoming or Utah State.

I was going to a showcase down in Utah but it got cancelled unfortunately.

We will be playing in a league in Utah during the spring and in the summer we will play throughout the state of Wyoming and be attending a tournament in Denver, Colorado.

We play against some really good teams like Cheyenne Post 6, a nationally recognized American Legion program. But we also play against teams that barely field a team and then stink up their home field.

We play plenty of Utah teams throughout the summer as well.

Our team has not been so great the last few years but I think we will be tons better this year.

I know there are scouts at our state tournament but we need to get there for that to happen, we failed to qualify for state last year.
Citrus - I'll give you my take.

The whole key to this whole thing is to come up with a plan. I believe a bottom up plan is the best approach. Find one program that wants you and work up from there.

If your plan is to wait for the phone to ring, then your career is almost assuredly over.

For starters, based off your own evalaution of yourself, you have more confidence in your hitting than your pitching thus imho, forget about pitching as that will only detract from your strength.

Secondly, if your only position is first base, you need to develop power. First base may be one of the toughest positions to break into in all of college baseball. Often occupied by guys who are big, can hit them a long ways, and can hit them often. If speed is part of your game, then perhaps you can entice a coach at some other position.

Assuming first base is it, contact every JUCO coach within a reasonable driving distance of you, and see if you can get a tryout or a meeting with them. Draw a circle on a map and do not miss one opportunity either in state or out. Do everything humanly possible to make these contacts and look for any showcasing opportunities that might present themselves. Follow up and keep following up on all leads. Each coach you talk to, if they tell you no, ask them if they are aware of any other opportunites. Follow up on any leads these might generate. Make it your plan to contact several programs a day until you have exausted all possibilities and then start over. Make it your mission to speak with every coach. Do not leave it as a message on an answering machine or a message with a secratary. Let them know you will be calling back until you speak with them.

In the mean time during all this contacting and following up, devise a physical improvement plan. Develop a solid long tossing program for arm strength. Don't let a day go by without working on hitting drills and following that up with bp or cage work. Develop a solid strength program designed to build power. Enroll in a speed program. This will help your athleticism and may lead to opportunities at other positions. Get your Dad or your friends to hit you some ground balls every day and make sure they hit them with some mustard on them. Work on fielding to the left and to the right in addition to right at you.

Basically what I have done is rattle off some suggestions. Put every waking hour into contacting programs, following up, and improving your skills. Most importantly, show every coach that you have the discipline necessary to get very good grades. The whole plan is for naught if you are slacking in school. Devise a plan like I have crudely outlined here and religously execute the plan. Do not leave your hopes and dreams up to any other individual on the planet. You are solely responsible.

Do all these things and more and you know what? To answer your original question, IMHO, yes you can play in college and above the club team level - if and only if, you set your mind to it and execute the plan. Now get busy and do it!
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Citrus - I'll give you my take.

The whole key to this whole thing is to come up with a plan. I believe a bottom up plan is the best approach. Find one program that wants you and work up from there.

If your plan is to wait for the phone to ring, then your career is almost assuredly over.

For starters, based off your own evalaution of yourself, you have more confidence in your hitting than your pitching thus imho, forget about pitching as that will only detract from your strength.

Secondly, if your only position is first base, you need to develop power. First base may be one of the toughest positions to break into in all of college baseball. Often occupied by guys who are big, can hit them a long ways, and can hit them often. If speed is part of your game, then perhaps you can entice a coach at some other position.

Assuming first base is it, contact every JUCO coach within a reasonable driving distance of you, and see if you can get a tryout or a meeting with them. Draw a circle on a map and do not miss one opportunity either in state or out. Do everything humanly possible to make these contacts and look for any showcasing opportunities that might present themselves. Follow up and keep following up on all leads. Each coach you talk to, if they tell you no, ask them if they are aware of any other opportunites. Follow up on any leads these might generate. Make it your plan to contact several programs a day until you have exausted all possibilities and then start over. Make it your mission to speak with every coach. Do not leave it as a message on an answering machine or a message with a secratary. Let them know you will be calling back until you speak with them.

In the mean time during all this contacting and following up, devise a physical improvement plan. Develop a solid long tossing program for arm strength. Don't let a day go by without working on hitting drills and following that up with bp or cage work. Develop a solid strength program designed to build power. Enroll in a speed program. This will help your athleticism and may lead to opportunities at other positions. Get your Dad or your friends to hit you some ground balls every day and make sure they hit them with some mustard on them. Work on fielding to the left and to the right in addition to right at you.

Basically what I have done is rattle off some suggestions. Put every waking hour into contacting programs, following up, and improving your skills. Most importantly, show every coach that you have the discipline necessary to get very good grades. The whole plan is for naught if you are slacking in school. Devise a plan like I have crudely outlined here and religously execute the plan. Do not leave your hopes and dreams up to any other individual on the planet. You are solely responsible.

Do all these things and more and you know what? To answer your original question, IMHO, yes you can play in college and above the club team level - if and only if, you set your mind to it and execute the plan. Now get busy and do it!


enough said... if you truly and really want it, you'll play at the next level
Thank you everyone for your input.

Oh and I did used to play outfield there's another position for whoever was asking if I played other positions, I played mostly right when I was an outfielder. I got put at first because I have a good glove but I'm not the fastest kid out there. I have been doing a lot of sprints and plyometrics this off season to help that.

Where in Wyoming did your son play? Did he play against Cheyenne, Gillette, or Casper by any chance? Those are the top three teams in the state along with Powell usually finishing up towards the top among the smaller towns.
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