Couple of questions

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Originally posted by Tiger3boy:
Two situations that occurred in today's game

1. Big rally underway for us. 4 hitter comes up and drives ball off his foot. Ball never bounces, just squirts toward third. Hitter grabs foot. Third basemen picks up ball, throws to first for the out. Rally dead. PU calls ball fair, BU "Did not see it" (I have heard this alot lately when calls have gone against us). The ground in front of the plate is rock hard, so the ball should have shot into the air if it would have missed the foot. Is there no allowance for logic and the laws of physics in a case like this, or do we just have to deal with it?
**No place for logic or physics. The umpires can only call what they see.

2. Runner at first, ball hit to SS, who fires low to first, and the ball finds a stupid hole and skids out of play. Runner at first was nearly to third when the ball went out of play, and would have easily scored. Runner was sent back to third after crossing the plate. Does this come under the "Baserunning Awards Table" under #5 on two bases (batter and runners) p. 52 of the current NFHS rule book. I ask because when I asked for clarification I was told that it was clearly a 1 and 1 situation. It would appear to be two bases from the pitch, which would have been far less confusing.
** 1 and 1 is a basketball term. Batted ball, two (2) bases from time of pitch. Thrown ball, two (2) bases from time of throw.
Sorry about the long post. Thank you for any help.

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Originally posted by bullpen:
No, the runner should not be allowed to score. On the first play an infielder makes the awarded bases are from the time of the throw.
**I believe you mean the time of the pitch.

On any subsequent play by an infielder, or a throw by an outfielder, then the bases are awarded from the time of the throw.

Use the Baserunning Awards Table that you referred to in your post and you should be fine.

Hope this helps.

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Originally posted by bullpen:
On the first play an infielder makes the awarded bases are from the time of the pitch.

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Originally posted by bullpen:
Out of play is out of play. In the dugout, through the fence, over an out of play line, etc.

Same # of bases for all, it just depends how and when the ball went out of play.

***NO! It's from the time of the throw (TOT), or time of the pitch (TOP), NOT when it goes out of play.

Was it a throw by the infielder, outfielder, first throw, second throw, etc???

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Originally posted by Tiger3boy:
As a followup. Yesterday we have a game, PU tells me that the play on Tuesday should have been done differently. Stated that the field blue had called the ball dead appropriately, but did not realize that the runner was well on his way to third base at the time of the ball going out of play. Felt that the runner should have scored. I am now completely confused.

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Originally posted by Tiger3boy:
That is what I thought. I went back to the book to check it and it seemed like they had gotten the call right, although they had used the wrong terminology. Would have been nice to have gotten the run though. (We ended up losing by 1)

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