Umpires suspended the game with Menchville at the plate with no outs.
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Cox wins 4-2
Number 5 team in the country loses to Cox.
BaseballFan 10001, you posted in another thread: “i think that it's unfortunate that the two best teams ended up playing each other in the semi's, not the finals” Agreed but we may not be thinking of the same teams. Western Branch lost to Cox by only 1 run in a game in which the defenses certainly played better than in the Indian River / Menchville game. The WB / Cox game featured a tight game with lead exchanges, a throwout at home by a centerfielder, two double plays, an attempted steal of home, a walk-off hit in the bottom of the 7th and a well-behaved crowd.
-Correct me if i`m wrong but did IR beat WB not once but twice over the course of the year?
-And by tight defense do you mean errors on a sacrifice bunt to cost a team the game?
-And by tight game with lead exchanges did you not catch the Menchville AND IR pitcher pitch out of jams mulitple times, WITH mulitple plays at the plate
The only true argument was a well-behaved crowd, granted the 7 people in attendence couldn't be heard over the crickets
-And by tight defense do you mean errors on a sacrifice bunt to cost a team the game?
-And by tight game with lead exchanges did you not catch the Menchville AND IR pitcher pitch out of jams mulitple times, WITH mulitple plays at the plate
The only true argument was a well-behaved crowd, granted the 7 people in attendence couldn't be heard over the crickets
The crowd was well-behaved tonight as well. Great game and great sportsmanship after the game from both sides. Chase Kyriacou had a huge game for the Falcons. Pitched a 3 hit game thru 6 innings before the lightning delay ended his evening on the mound and hit a solo HR to get Cox within 1. Richie Salter closed it out. Falcons will host the NW Region runnerup Tuesday at ODU. I hope to see a lot of fans out to help root the East Region champs to victory. Congrats to Menchville on a well-played hard fought game and good luck to them next week as well. I'm sure they will be an outstanding representative for the East Region
quote:Originally posted by baseballfan10001:
-Correct me if i`m wrong but did IR beat WB not once but twice over the course of the year?
-And by tight defense do you mean errors on a sacrifice bunt to cost a team the game?
-And by tight game with lead exchanges did you not catch the Menchville AND IR pitcher pitch out of jams mulitple times, WITH mulitple plays at the plate
The only true argument was a well-behaved crowd, granted the 7 people in attendence couldn't be heard over the crickets
The point is you cannot say with certainty that the two best teams played in one side of the bracket. WB lost to Cox by 1 run, Menchville lost to Cox by 2 and Indian River lost to Menchville by 2. Yes, WB did lose to IR twice but never was shut out by IR. WB shut out IR in their last meeting. WB wasn an improving team. It is not where you are when the leaves are green but where you are when the leaves are brown.
I`m not saying it with certainty, i`m saying it with opinion. In my Opinion, if a round robin was between all 8 regional teams, IR and Menchville would come out on top. That's just my opinion!
and btw.. WB got blown out the first meeting between the two, and in the game where WB won, WB was playing with their life on the line, whereas IR was playing for nothing and WB was pitching their ace, and IR was pitching their number 4 pitcher.
and btw.. WB got blown out the first meeting between the two, and in the game where WB won, WB was playing with their life on the line, whereas IR was playing for nothing and WB was pitching their ace, and IR was pitching their number 4 pitcher.
quote:Originally posted by baseballfan10001:
I`m not saying it with certainty, i`m saying it with opinion. In my Opinion, if a round robin was between all 8 regional teams, IR and Menchville would come out on top. That's just my opinion!
and btw.. WB got blown out the first meeting between the two, and in the game where WB won, WB was playing with their life on the line, whereas IR was playing for nothing and WB was pitching their ace, and IR was pitching their number 4 pitcher.
Differential in the first meeting between the two (7) was the same as the differential in the last meeting between the two teams (7) so if that constitutes a blow out, each team achieved a blowout of the other. WB did score runs in every game (including 5 in the "blowout" game) and got more than 2 hits in every game, including 10 in the game they were "blownout". IR pitched their ace in both their wins over WB. WB pitched by committee (4 pitchers) in the game they were "blownout".
Enough chest beating....
Congratulations to Cox and good luck to both teams in the next round. Bring a banner home to the east.
Congratulations to Cox and good luck to both teams in the next round. Bring a banner home to the east.
HR Fan, Aren't you the one who proclaimed that if WB finished as high as 6th in their district, WB would be overachieving?
Ok let me just say this and we will attempt to leave it at this to ok
Menchville ranked number 5 in the country ok that doesn't just happen as much as we like to think they have umps in there pocket and sharpened spikes they didn't their pitching staff is absolutely tremendous and they finished first in their district.
Cox High Scool was 1 at the beach with IMPRESSIVE defensive stats i must say salter is one of the most laid back effective pitchers i have ever seen and it doesn't stop with him
Indian River Finished First in the Southeastern District in the regular season out scoring opponents roughly 9 to 1 playing impressive defensive baseball with only 12 errors in 21 games,four of them coming in the same game.
Western Branch is a YOUNG team, they have Nick Thompson who is a Shoe in D-1 Player and at the rate he is going a VERY high draft pick. This team is Most definitely going to be a force to be reckoned with the next 2 years and will MOST DEFINITELY be seen at regionals for both of those.
Now with that being said an we all agree that Good Ball was played btween everyone if you check regular season IR defeated WB 4-2 first game and 10-0 second game, but don't forget about Thompsons SHUT DOWN apperance in the district tournament and the amazing compialation of hits that were put together for WB to put a 7-0 upsedt on my braves.
Cox and Menchville both played near perfect ball all season and represent themselves well they both have STRONG pitching staffs, that shut down top offenses in the area. They are strong contenders.
The best teams were MOST DEFINITELY THE FINAL 4 TEAMS! Any one of these teams would represent the region well and put up good numbers on ANY team. They would all ahev strong 7 inning games against any other of these teams and would always be close in score. So with that CONGRATULATIONS COX CONGRATULATIONS MENCHVILLE CONGRATULATIONS INDIAN RIVER AND CONGRATULATIONS WESTERN BRANCH the 4 best tams in the region for the year of 2009!!!
Menchville ranked number 5 in the country ok that doesn't just happen as much as we like to think they have umps in there pocket and sharpened spikes they didn't their pitching staff is absolutely tremendous and they finished first in their district.
Cox High Scool was 1 at the beach with IMPRESSIVE defensive stats i must say salter is one of the most laid back effective pitchers i have ever seen and it doesn't stop with him
Indian River Finished First in the Southeastern District in the regular season out scoring opponents roughly 9 to 1 playing impressive defensive baseball with only 12 errors in 21 games,four of them coming in the same game.
Western Branch is a YOUNG team, they have Nick Thompson who is a Shoe in D-1 Player and at the rate he is going a VERY high draft pick. This team is Most definitely going to be a force to be reckoned with the next 2 years and will MOST DEFINITELY be seen at regionals for both of those.
Now with that being said an we all agree that Good Ball was played btween everyone if you check regular season IR defeated WB 4-2 first game and 10-0 second game, but don't forget about Thompsons SHUT DOWN apperance in the district tournament and the amazing compialation of hits that were put together for WB to put a 7-0 upsedt on my braves.
Cox and Menchville both played near perfect ball all season and represent themselves well they both have STRONG pitching staffs, that shut down top offenses in the area. They are strong contenders.
The best teams were MOST DEFINITELY THE FINAL 4 TEAMS! Any one of these teams would represent the region well and put up good numbers on ANY team. They would all ahev strong 7 inning games against any other of these teams and would always be close in score. So with that CONGRATULATIONS COX CONGRATULATIONS MENCHVILLE CONGRATULATIONS INDIAN RIVER AND CONGRATULATIONS WESTERN BRANCH the 4 best tams in the region for the year of 2009!!!
Congrats to Cox,they were the finest example of never say "quit".The efforts of all from those on the bench respectfully pushing the team to those on the field sweating the game out.Mr.Taylor has certainly trumpeted his team and weathered our wrath.Good luck to all and please represent the Southside well.Once again ya'll are a true example of a quality coaching staff and quality kids. 
quote:Originally posted by WB Reporter:
HR Fan, Aren't you the one who proclaimed that if WB finished as high as 6th in their district, WB would be overachieving?
Yes I did, and they did overachieve, a credit to them. I already ate that crow. And that is off topic on this thread.
Congrats again to Cox and Menchville, now hoping that one of them bring the state banner to 757!
All this talk about the 4 or 5 best teams kills me. That’s why they play the game. I mean come on are we really going to go back and say well if this happened and if he would have done this. Save it Cox and Menchville are the two best teams COX BEING THE BEST. Let me go further, I truly do not think it will matter who Cox plays in the state tourney. I believe Menchville is the best they will see. Granted they didn’t start their ace but Jharel Cotton’s is one hell of a pitcher. If Cox plays the way they did in the Regional championship game it’s their state championship to lose. Love to hear a better argument? They have 2 aces on the hill and Chase to close who could be an ace on most other staffs. The bats are picking up and Kyle Profilet has at some key AB’s and has delivered for Cox. Plus we have the beach player the year “Chris Taylor” his numbers speak volumes for what type of athlete he is. I would put Cox up against any team in the state. Just my opinion, but how can you argue with me. Cox played and Cox one. We beat IR and WB and Mench who’s NEXT?
Good job Chase on the hill last night great pitching vs a great team and some great AB’s to complement your first win of the year.
Good job Chase on the hill last night great pitching vs a great team and some great AB’s to complement your first win of the year.
Localbaseball you are right, playing and beating Menchville will give Cox the experience and confidence to make a run for the state title, and i hope they do bring it back to Hampton Roads!!!
BUT just for the record, i dont recall Cox beating, and for that matter even playing, IR this year ( i dont recall these two teams facing each other within the last 5 plus years )
BUT just for the record, i dont recall Cox beating, and for that matter even playing, IR this year ( i dont recall these two teams facing each other within the last 5 plus years )
You are right I got ahead of myself. I wanted to say Bethel.
Seeing these posts has compelled me to post on this topic. Baseballfan10001, you come across like a sore loser and you are embarrassing yourself with your "hypothetical" comments. Had IR beaten the very same Menchville team that Cox defeated, then this hypothetical Cox v. Indian River match-up could have come to fruition. However, Indian River FAILED, and Cox won...Cox is the Eastern Region Champs, and they deserve all the credit! Hopefully, Cox and IR will have the opportunity to play each other soon, maybe next year...
Beachpitcher02, I couldn’t agree more. I do not understand these washed out guys on here talking a big game when the bottom line is Cox Won and they have earned the right to be called EAST REGION CAMPS. Go Cox bring it home baby
Cox is great baseball team, but winning state will be tough....
There is good talent all over this state.
a) West Springfield has 2 ACES in Mike Kent & Bobby Wahl. Both touch 90 (legitimately) on the gun and they have been dominating a very tough northern region.
b) Hanover, from the region that has produced 3 of the last 5 state winners (I believe), is 21-1 and has arms (Jake Mayers) AND bats (Austin Erb) to play with anyone.
c) Deep Run has a DOMINATING lefty, R.C. Orlan who lives in the low 90s and is headed to UNC.
c) Not trying to dog Menchville, because they have some decent hitters and impressive pitchers, but I don't think I'd call them one of the top 5 teams in the country based on what I've seen (watched them 3 times this yr)... and I don't think beating them certainly doesn't mean Cox can roll through the state tournament...
Regardless, I love the way the Cox team plays. They never give up, they play solid defense, they play as a team, and they come through in the clutch.
I wish them all the best and hope they DO take care of business....
There is good talent all over this state.
a) West Springfield has 2 ACES in Mike Kent & Bobby Wahl. Both touch 90 (legitimately) on the gun and they have been dominating a very tough northern region.
b) Hanover, from the region that has produced 3 of the last 5 state winners (I believe), is 21-1 and has arms (Jake Mayers) AND bats (Austin Erb) to play with anyone.
c) Deep Run has a DOMINATING lefty, R.C. Orlan who lives in the low 90s and is headed to UNC.
c) Not trying to dog Menchville, because they have some decent hitters and impressive pitchers, but I don't think I'd call them one of the top 5 teams in the country based on what I've seen (watched them 3 times this yr)... and I don't think beating them certainly doesn't mean Cox can roll through the state tournament...
Regardless, I love the way the Cox team plays. They never give up, they play solid defense, they play as a team, and they come through in the clutch.
I wish them all the best and hope they DO take care of business....
Ya'll please don't start this again. Set an example and take the high road.
Riverbaseball24, I agree with you, but I believe that baseball America had Menchville as #1 in the country at some point this year. None of the teams you speak of were ranked #1. I frankly don’t care who they play and am well aware of the teams around the state and the talent on those teams. It is anyone tournament and agree it will be tough road for Cox to go thru. I believe in the kids and they have come thru in the clutch.
As far as “A win over Menchville isn't THAT impressive.” You must be crazy. They have one of the best coached teams I have seen, great defense, and obviously great pitching. You miss spoke when you said “Menchville's lineup is VERY overrated” Where they lack power they make contact and force teams to make good plays. It just so happened that the Cox pitcher mixed it up and kept them off balance they couldn’t touch his curve ball. But you don’t get ranked #1 in the nation and have an over-rated lineup
As far as “A win over Menchville isn't THAT impressive.” You must be crazy. They have one of the best coached teams I have seen, great defense, and obviously great pitching. You miss spoke when you said “Menchville's lineup is VERY overrated” Where they lack power they make contact and force teams to make good plays. It just so happened that the Cox pitcher mixed it up and kept them off balance they couldn’t touch his curve ball. But you don’t get ranked #1 in the nation and have an over-rated lineup
I believe the last team to win states was Great Bridge in 2003 (but I may be mistaken). As far as teams being overrated, or what team is seeded where, and how they scored their runs (earned/unearned), I would think with the talent we have in this area, the quality of coaches, and the competition we always see in the SE and Beach districts (I only speak of those two because I'm the most familiar with them)any of our teams can compete in the State Tournament. These guys play some tough schedules throughout the year and somebody has to come in as the 1 seed and others at the 4 seed. I don't think it speaks so much as to who is better, but who took advantage of the situations they were given, which is how you win at baseball.
Yes, it is true that Menchville was ranked #1 in the country. I think top 10 sounds more realistic, but a win against them is VERY impressive. I agree with LocalBaseball on this point. Chase deserves lots of credit for keeping them off balance and pitching a phenomenal game.
PA won states in 2005
Edited the post as to not start a ****ing match... that really wasn't my point.
All I was saying is that I don't think beating Menchville doesn't qualify a team to automatically run through states...
We have some good baseball in VA regardless though that's for sure!
All I was saying is that I don't think beating Menchville doesn't qualify a team to automatically run through states...
We have some good baseball in VA regardless though that's for sure!
Gotcha Riverbaseball24, Never said they will run away with it. Baseball is a funny game hell they could lose in the first round but could happen. I think it was a big win for a team that has to have a lot of confidence knowing they have 3 pitchers that can pitch lights out if called upon.
Beachpitcher02 sounds like he knows what he is talking about.
quote:Originally posted by IRHooligan:
Ok let me just say this and we will attempt to leave it at this to ok
. . . if you check regular season IR defeated WB 4-2 first game and 10-0 second game, but don't forget about Thompsons SHUT DOWN apperance in the district tournament and the amazing compialation of hits that were put together for WB to put a 7-0 upsedt on my braves.
IR Hooligan, I don't want to start it up again but I am a STICKLER for accurate numbers. Check with Riverbaseball24. I think you will learn that the score in the first WB / IR game on March 30 was IR 12, WB 5. The score of the second game on May 12 was IR 4, WB 1. The WB 7, IR 0 score was accurate. Where are you getting your information?
Sure seems to be a lot of arguing on here. I have watched 70% of the tournament games in regional’s and must say that the final four teams were very good. However, my opinion is that Menchville is probably the best. I think Cox has more offensive explosion and sound defense. The pitching that Menchville has puts them a notch above Cox. Hey with that said Cox beat them and looked strong. I agree with localbaseball if they play like that they will be a front runner. But the team’s up north are no joke. Good luck to Cox and Menchville. I would love to see Cox bring it home.
Again... you have to know what other regions have...
Hanover is 22-1 and has a big offense, averaging almost 10 a game (Austin Erb, Laine Denton) to go along with one stud (Jake Mayers) on the mound and decent #2 & #3.
West Springfield can match up with Menchville's pithing staff as they have 2 guys that have signed with SEC teams and throw in the 90s (Mississippi signee Bobby Wahl & Clemson signee Mike Kent).
Deep Run has a lefty, R.C. Orlan, headed to UNC that throws in the low 90's and a #2 committed to VMI.
Cox has a good lineup with Austin Erb (the cather - and yes, there are TWO kids named "Austin Erb" in the states as weird as that seems..) in it, but losing him will hurt/show up in states. I'll go on record as saying they win game one with Salter on the mound... but game two will be a tough win for them.
I'm saying that pitching is DEEP in the state this year. Menchville gets all the pub... but these other squads have dominant pitchers as well. I just don't see Menchville, with not facing one guy throwing in the upper 80s all year & and not showing any explosiveness at all in the regionals, hitting to keep up...
just my opinion.
Hanover is 22-1 and has a big offense, averaging almost 10 a game (Austin Erb, Laine Denton) to go along with one stud (Jake Mayers) on the mound and decent #2 & #3.
West Springfield can match up with Menchville's pithing staff as they have 2 guys that have signed with SEC teams and throw in the 90s (Mississippi signee Bobby Wahl & Clemson signee Mike Kent).
Deep Run has a lefty, R.C. Orlan, headed to UNC that throws in the low 90's and a #2 committed to VMI.
Cox has a good lineup with Austin Erb (the cather - and yes, there are TWO kids named "Austin Erb" in the states as weird as that seems..) in it, but losing him will hurt/show up in states. I'll go on record as saying they win game one with Salter on the mound... but game two will be a tough win for them.
I'm saying that pitching is DEEP in the state this year. Menchville gets all the pub... but these other squads have dominant pitchers as well. I just don't see Menchville, with not facing one guy throwing in the upper 80s all year & and not showing any explosiveness at all in the regionals, hitting to keep up...
just my opinion.
Riverbaseball24, I think you hit it right on. Looking away from my biased opinion about Cox. I think that they win at ODU with Salter on the hill and after that could be rough. However, Ryan their number 2 is pretty good. Not over powering but if he has his control he can give them a run. But it would be asking a lot to say they will be in the championship game. Hey you never know they have a lot of under dogs that come up big. Their CF, RF and 3Rd baseman, and of course Chris Taylor so the talent is there. As far as having the catcher out we have a freshman that is pretty nasty behind the plate, but no bat so with that said it’s a long tough road.
i agree..Menchville didnt impress me as the 5th ranked team in the COUNTRY. Its not like they dominated the teams this past weekend. Matter fact I think every game at Odu were close and could have gone either way by one play or another!If thats the case, the rest of the teams should be ranked 6th, 7th, 8th in the country cuz they played jsut as impressive 
no way, thats funny I agree no way they should be ranked that high. I do not understand it. Cox should be 4th in the country right? I mean **** they beat them so what does that say. Plus all games were 6-4 Mench 5-3 Mench and a loss to Cox 2-4.