Situation: high school team losing 1-0 in the bottom of the seventh inning. One runner on, two outs. Batter hits an apparent two-run homer. Baserunner does not touch home plate, defensive team appeals, gets the call, and wins 1-0. Anyone see anything crazier than that?
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Seems strange that the home plate umpire would confer with the base umpire before making the call. That tells me the plate ump likely didn't see it and since it was the lead runner....why would the base umpire have seen whether or not the runner touched home....considering the kid who hit the HR was still rounding the bases. Wouldn't that runner have been his responsibility??
Buckeye 2015 posted:Seems strange that the home plate umpire would confer with the base umpire before making the call. That tells me the plate ump likely didn't see it and since it was the lead runner....why would the base umpire have seen whether or not the runner touched home....considering the kid who hit the HR was still rounding the bases. Wouldn't that runner have been his responsibility??
I dunno. The video (which is in the second link) was inconclusive -- the baserunner clearly rounds third and heads home. That said, when the hitter crosses home plate, the home plate umpire is standing about 10 feet in front of the plate, staring intently at home plate and the runners . . . so it looks like he was in a position not to miss it. The catcher also is standing up and wouldn't have missed it, IMO -- which perhaps led to the appeal.
Watching the video, it seems bizarre that the baserunner missed home -- it's not like there was a huge celebration at home plate, or anyone blocking his path.
About 7 years ago we were down 1-0 in the bottom of the seventh and two outs. There pitcher couldnt handle the pressure (or just made a mistake) and balked the tying run in to home. Our kid jogs home and instead of touching the plate steps over it while high fiving the kid up at bat.
I can laugh about this now but every practice we go over the fundamentals of base running and talk about that general situation and how you need to step on the middle of the plate.
Nevertheless we lost 1-0
Buckeye 2015 posted:Seems strange that the home plate umpire would confer with the base umpire before making the call. That tells me the plate ump likely didn't see it and since it was the lead runner....why would the base umpire have seen whether or not the runner touched home....considering the kid who hit the HR was still rounding the bases. Wouldn't that runner have been his responsibility??
FED has some somewhat-confusing rules / cases on when a run can score on an award during which the third out is made. Maybe the umpires were conferring about that (they did end up getting it right, based on the description -- I didn't watch the video).
You had one job... That's a shame...
Name of the game....gotta touch'em all.
FWIW this is one of my favorite questions about the rules but usually the bases are loaded. Hardly anyone ever gets it right.
My scenario: Team is down 3 with the bases loaded and 2 out in bottom of the 9th. Batter hits a walk off homer but his team loses. He did not pass any runners so how did it happen?
I'll throw out a guess. All runners still need to touch all the bases. If any one runner misses a base and the runner behind him touches it, the lead runner is out, making it the third out...negating the home run?? Be easy on me....I said it was a guess 
luv baseball posted:Name of the game....gotta touch'em all.
FWIW this is one of my favorite questions about the rules but usually the bases are loaded. Hardly anyone ever gets it right.
My scenario: Team is down 3 with the bases loaded and 2 out in bottom of the 9th. Batter hits a walk off homer but his team loses. He did not pass any runners so how did it happen?
If any runner misses a base to which he is forced (I'm including BR at first here, even though it's technically not a force) (and it is properly appealed), then no runs can score. Or if a runner misses a base to which he is not forced (and it is properly appealed), then that runner can't score and neither can any runners behind him. Or, another runner could pass someone (you only mentioned the batter). Or, someone abandons.
Visiting team hits a 2-run home run in the top of the 7th to go ahead by one run. Except the batter missed home plate. We appeal and the run comes off the board. Ended up going 14 innings before being called due to darkness. Ended up as a tie.
Another game. We're the home team, down a run in the bottom of the 7th. I'm batting with the bases loaded, two outs and two strikes. Left handed pitcher on the mound committed to a Sun Belt school (would play a couple years of pro ball). We steal home on two consecutive pitches to win the game!
