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Rumor has it that at least 11,000 fans went to hospitals in and around Phoenix after the Cubbies 8-4 loss to the D-backs.

Seems they've finally realized the division championship was a fluke and it will be another 100 years before they win the World Series!

Can you say 3 and out!

Go White Sox.
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I think you're on to something Been...those flukes can be very troublesome...especially when exposed to hot and dry desert air (roof or no roof).

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Flukes..in baseball.


Pholddupp cubskies var.piniella


Flukes are usually recognized after you watch and cheer for your favorite team and remarkably your team finishes the season with a playoff bid. Most flukes are acquired by:

- thinking your team is much better than it really is.

- swallowing the "This is our year!" story once again.

- reading infected websites.

- reading (from any source) and believing raw, unadulterated, red meat hype about your favorite team.

Flukes are most common late in the season when they can be most damaging. However, flukes can occur throughout the entire season. They are difficult to recognize in their early season form.

Flukes normally inhabit the deep recesses, nooks and crannies of the the staunch true believers. This particular variety, piniella, is especially vexing since laughable early season performance seemingly destroyed any hope that success, fluke or not, would be attainable.

In Major League Baseball, flukes, when discovered, disrupt digestion and normal sleeping patterns. Symptoms include chronic disbelief and emotional pain. Other symptoms include doubt, skepticism, and low self esteem. Sometimes moderate to severe depression results when the fan's body absorbs the fluke's pernicious delusions.

You can eliminate this particular fluke by thoroughly debunking rosy news reports taken from suspect newspapers, radio and television stations, websites, blogs, and flyers posted throughout Wrigleyville.

The most common methods used to eradicate flukes are taking cold showers, drinking caffenaited beverages (both hot and cold), and counting (accurately) the holes in your accoustical tiles in your basement ceiling.
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Cubs winning the division - absolutely a fluke. Not a real good club fortunate enough to be in a lousy division. No surprise they'll be out soon, any other year and they'd be out searching for tee times with the White Sox players.
Bears in Super Bowl last year - most likely a fluke from a horrendous division with some very lucky wins, and I'm a huge fan of the Cubs and Bears.
Sox in 05 - now more than ever clearly a fluke of a century. A very good team that got as hot and fortunate at the right time as any team in the history of sports. 2 short years later a doormat.
Bears 85 & 6 Bulls titles - no flukes there as you had multi-year dominance and multiple hall of famers.
Btw - I don't buy for a second this b.s. from Sox fans that the past 2 years don't matter and their still floating on a happy high from 05, nonsense.
A couple years after the Bulls dynasty ended they got beat on a cold winter night in Minnesota by 50+ points. It was disgusting to watch and the glow of the titles past was a nice memory but did nothing to lessen the anger of true fans who live in the present. Any real Sox fan should be sick about the state of the club.
Pinella definitely has to learn to communicate better with his players. After the first game, he pulled Carlos Zambrano after six innings and told them he wanted Zambrano to be ready to go on Sunday. He should have made it clear to them that he did not mean ready to go back home on Sunday to Venezuela to visit his family.

With this type of managing and no hitting, who needs Bartman. They appear as though they were able to take care of things themselves this year without outside intervention.
Hellllooooooo Denis!

From a happy,satisfied Sox fan,still glowing from that beautiful October run of 2005.

What we know now about the 2007 cubs.....


They cannott be compared to the 06 Sox let alone mentioned in the same breath as the World Champs!

They played like manure when challenged by that great Seminole Steven Drew and his band of .250 hitters.

Zambrano is well rested.

Lily is a little leaguer at heart.

Piniella is the genius we knew he was. Getting this team to the nlds was magical, even in the AAA division of MLB.

Hendry got lucky in the regular season but the truth is tough to swallow in October.

The media dorks (local and national) were frothing at the mouth to pay homage during the 4 day post season.

Did someone say "0-3 in the NLDS"?

Well, Tunney and Boy's Town can get back to normal now. Could be another boring century.
I think this article in the Chicago Tribune sums it up.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/cs-071006morrissey...oll=chi_tab01_layout

The Cub fans started booing early in the game. I couldn’t believe my ears. Here the Cubs are in the post season and their fans are booing them. What’s up with that? The 2005 World Series Champion Chicago White Sox ended the 2007 season with a record of 72 wins 90 losses, a pathetic 24 games out, and were cheering like its 2005. Jim Thome, the pride of Peoria, chasing his 500th career home run was a bonus.

To me, that’s the big difference between Sox and Cub fans.
A sad funeral to say the least, but at least the beer was flowing abundantly.

The telling moment was in Game Two when the starting pitcher Ted Lilly threw his glove down in a Little League rant following the three run homerun he allowed in the second inning. Before the next pitch was thrown, Derrick Lee did his best to console Lilly and try to lift his sinking spirits, but not much was left after that display and Lilly was pulled in the 4th Inning.

As usual there is always next year!
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The telling moment was when Cincinnati decided to get Adam Dunn to end his season; Griffey was out of the lineup; and, the Cubs won the last series while Cincy had an AAA or lower lineup on the field against the Cubbies.

Should be an investigation of that one.

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If the Brewers pick up a frontline pitcher, they will take the Central next year and the Cubbies with their $140 million lineup will start working on season 102 without a world series championship in spring training.
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Dennis400: The only way a championship counts is if you are good 2 years later? Huh? Remember the '06 Sox had 90 wins, as many as any National League team in this year's playoffs. But, '06 didn't validate '05. The World Series win was what true fans were waiting for litereally their whole lives. How many bad seasons would Cub fans trade for the one title.
If you are only happy when your team wins the title during the current season, you'll never enjoy sports. According to you, you have to win every year or it doesn't count. Why bother to be a fan at all? Why bother to keep records?
rosy and Denis are the fellows I truly feel sorry for...and the many fans just like them.

The key here is that they just might never see, or have to wait their whole life before enjoying what we lucky, grateful Sox fans have in our back pocket!

Looking at it that way may allow Denis and the rest of the frustrated and unlucky cub fans understand our true afterglow.

There but for the "Grace of God" go Smokey, bballdad1954 and the rest of the chosen people of Chicago.
The better team certainly won the series. The Cubs way overachieved to even reach the playoffs in a weak division. The 06 Sox were better than this years Cubs.
People seem to have a very difficult time reading and comprehending the written word.
"Fluke" is probably too strong a word for a team that wins an unlikely title or does so in an unlikely manner. Were Cardinals of last year a fluke? Definitely not a very good team that got hot and won it. That's the great thing about sports, flukes or whatever you want to call it happen all the time.
Nobody needs to feel sorry for me. I've likely watched or listened to all or parts of 99% of all Bulls games since about 1974. Many lean, some brutal years. Then the titles and a decade of pure dominance any fan can only hope for.
I still love those titles, sometimes watch the tapes. However, 26 titles would not have made the disgusting 6 or 7 years of doormat basketball that followed the titles any easier to digest. In fact, the titles made it harder to accept a loser. Nothing to do with being happy - obviously no team wins titles consistently.
What's the statute of limitations on how long a past title can mask the stench of rotten baseball? I've never seen one anywhere so I'm still gleeful from the Cubs last title 99 or so years ago.
Soxnole - you're one of my favorites but I'll never buy the afterglow thing for a minute. You're (admirably) too competitive for that.
Smokey - also one of my favorites. I've been to many, many Sox games at the end of some tough seasons where the sub 10,000 in attendance were to drunk, busy fighting, or verbally abusing their own Sox' players to clap for anything.
It's unfortunate, but we live in a very "what have you done for me lately" world.
Dennis, itsrosy, and all the true blue Cub fans on the Illinois forum and the HSBBWeb,

The fact that we are all passionate about the game of baseball is what binds us all together and that spills over into our loyalty for our professional teams. This in most cases is a birth right that has been handed down from one generation to the next. I told my 15 year old daughter, my youngest, about mid August as we sat watching a CWS game that I can “die a happy man” knowing that I have raised White Sox Fans. I went on to tell her that she can date a Cub fan just don’t get any ideas (in the far, far, future, after her tour in a Benedictine convent) about marring one.

I have been told by one friend that I have met on the HSBBWeb from out of state that those who are not from Chicago “do not get” this passionate rivalry between Cubs and Sox fans. Some may view this banter as being mean, bordering rude and distasteful. I can’t think of any other city that has the fortune of having two professional baseball teams with over one hundred years of history and tradition. Up until the 2005 both of these teams were in a championship drought. cry This, I think fueled the passion and loyally.

Having known this pain and disappointment as a White Sox fan all my sorry life and the pure joy and excitement of the 2005 World Series Championship, I truly have the utmost compassion for my brother Chicago Cub Fans. I feel your pain.

To the outsiders looking in, believe me this is akin to locker-room antics even though it may appear to get out of hand. We all know how difficult this game is and what goes into attaining success. I have all the respect in the world for anyone who has so much as had “a cup of coffee” in the bigs even if he is wearing Cubby Blue.

A TOAST; here’s to the Chicago Cubs for a successful 2007 season! You had a better record than your rivals on the South-Side. May you get your World Series Championship in 2008.

Oh yea… come spring… I will have forgotten I said any of this and deny all of it even if I am presented with irrefutable evidence!
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Soxnole & Smokey, great replies. And of course all of this is just having fun. It's awesome living near a 2 team mlb city.
Both teams are competitive often enough to make things interesting. Although, I have to liken my fellow Cub fans to a hack golfer who can't break 110 but keeps playing week after week for that 1 par he or she gets when that skulled approach shot rolls 160 yards on the ground, thru a bunker, and onto the green for their only 2 putt of the day.
Wait till next year once again - don't know how many more tough years Ron Santo can take. It was painful hearing his distress on final broadcast of sweep.

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