Cubs lose. Ramirez wins award.

that was funny as heck. I fell out of my chair laughing when it happened. I could tell he was having trouble seeing it, and when it happened, I couldn't stop laughing.

Now I haven't been a "official member" of high school baseball web because I normally just look around through all the threads. So maybe its not in my place to criticize. But I have seen a number of these types of threads coming from Sox fans about the "Flubs." Yes the Cubs are bad. Yes the Sox are World Champions. Give it a rest. What is the point of a thread like this? Coming from a long-time Braves fan, I find myself increasingly rooting against the Sox due to the increased obnoxiousness of their fans.

hammy88,

Welcome to these boards and by all means feel free to criticize. If you're not a home grown, full blooded Chicagoan you wouldn't understand what this nonstop barrage from the Sox fans is all about. If you are home grown, then you should understand where these guys are coming from. They simply cannot help themselves. Have pity, wish them warm milk at night and sweet dreams. BTW, when their team isn't playing particularly good, they can get even more vicious.

To keep my sanity this summer I've adapted a new team to root for while the Cubs "straighten things out" but my Phillies better not get too far behind the hated Mets or I'm in even more trouble. I might have to start rooting for the **~(*^~*%$@345`3!!

hammy....All good natured fun from the websters, young or old.

Took the Sox a long time to finally win the WS last year.

Cubs have another 150 years to wait. Wait a second, make that 250 fifty years.

People will be travelling around the globe in 2 hours and the Cubs will still be talking about the loyal fans coming to support their LOSERS.

Interesting that even the Cub announcers were talking about attendance again.

That is what the "homer" Cub employees do all the time. The product is terrible. They are precluded by their contracts from criticizing the play on the field. Even you, I am sure, laughed when he got "conked" on the top of the head. A major leaguer! If he didn't see the ball, why didn't he let the shortstop take it.

If Dusty lasts through mid-June, the Cubs management is filled with IDIOTS!

Difference between Cub fans and Sox fans: When Cubs lose, the marketing machines at the Trib and WGN sell Wrigley Field as the tourist destination. If they went 20-142, their park would be filled with out-of-town fans.

Sox fans don't support a team that loses.

Sox fans know the game. Cub fans are worried about their AARP benefits.

Been,

On this point, only one of many, I must disagree. You, year after year, attribute the Cubs attendance to " out of towners". This is May 28. School is still in session and people are not vacationing in Chicago yet. Like it or not, whether or not if it makes sense to YOU, Wrigley Field was packed with Chicagoans this weekend. These are true blue Cub fans who, right or wrong, come out to support their team. Son's bring their fathers as well as the next generation of Cub fans. It has been that way forever. Now, as the summer progresses and as the city becomes a destination for people, Wrigley Field and catching a Cub game may be on some peoples list of things to do. However, I truly believe that you greatly overestimate how many of the millions that will visit Wrigley are from this group.

Now, explain this to me. The World Champion White Sox don't appear to be much of a draw on the road so far this year. Why is that? So many empty seats in park after park when they show up. Maybe AL fans just aren't interested in seeing the 2005 Champions but in the NL the Cubs are annually one of the very top road draw teams. Maybe you and Soxnole need to tell all of those fans who seem to show up and cheer loudly for the Cubs when they're on the road just how foolish they are!

Finally, the standings are published every day in the paper, they're available instantly on the internet. Everyone knows that the Cubs are now 18-31. All this and they keep coming to cheer, or boo. You call these fans stupid, I call them loyal, as loyal can mean. This Tuesday my son and I will be in the left field bleachers for a night game vs the Reds. We are really looking forward to it, not having been at a game together last year. For those 3 hours I will cherish watching a game with my 17 yr. old who still doesn't mind hanging out with his old man. That's what baseball means to me.

Oh Phillies, stay close to those Mets!

Let's all remember our Veterans this Memorial Day. A happy holiday to all the websters.

Very well said Rosy.

Isn't it enough to have won a WS Championship and to have a chance to contend again this year? According to some of these Sox fans, no one should have watched a professional baseball game in Chicago for most of this century.....that is of course if you are a knowledgeable fan, right? because until last year we didn't have any teams worth going to the ballpark for, North or South Sides.

I go because I love baseball and being at the park.

Now Cub fans are bragging because they draw more fans on the road than the Sox. Unless you are an owner, it isn't about attendance, it's about playing exciting baseball and winning. By the way, Bill Melton and Ralph Garr both got hit in the head by baseballs while playing for the Sox (Melton broke his nose). The answer to why the Cubs have fans on the road is WGN has been a national superstation for years and since the Cubs were the only team playing during the day they got a lot of exposure and therefore, fans. They are loveable losers (although not so lovable this year, just losers).

bballdad,

No one is bragging about anything regarding attendance, just discussing why things seem to be the way they are. That's just your own hangup, not mine. Also, gimme a break with that WGN superstation stuff. Teams have had their teams' home games televised locally for a very long time all over the county. You'd think that the Cubs were the only game seen by fans in oppposing cities. I never got to watch the Yankees or the Cardinals or the Dodgers on TV but those teams also are constant big draws on the road. Maybe all those Cub fans who strangely appear at the park when the Cubs are in town are just transplants from Chicago. Maybe Sox fans just never leave the hood. I don't know.

On this point we do agree. This year, right now, the team is pathetic and looks like a throwback to Cub teams from the 70's.

The Phillies win for only the 3rd time in their last 9 games. I must be cursed!

rosy...you need to travel more.

The super station's have created hundred's of thousand's of Brave and cub fan's across the country, maybe millions.

In places like Jacksonville, Tallahassee, Birmingham, New Orleans, and all over the rural areas of our country WGN is now creating new Sox fan's daily. Do not underestimate the power of the super station and the appeal of the national pastime!

Btw, the wrigleyville/boy's town area is absolutely no more desirable than where Bridgeport is and where it is headed!

Soxnole,

If you're talking about broadcasts into cities without teams I can agree with you. But, if new Sox fans are being created in Jacksonville, Tallahassee and Birmingham, where will they ever go to see the Sox in person? If these folks visit Chicago in the summer maybe they'll catch a game or two at the Cell.

Now, tell me where Bridgeport is headed and what that means in this discussion. Is Bridgeport about to become a tourist mecca?

I do need to travel more, and will be on the road a lot this summer with Jordan. 8 day tournament in San Diego in August will be fantastic, up in Palo Alto for the Stanford Camp and a few other places we've never been. Of course, I'll make a trip or two to Benedictine to watch Rauiri and collect on my free hot dog and coke.

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Now, tell me where Bridgeport is headed and what that means in this discussion. Is Bridgeport about to become a tourist mecca?

Its...Regentrification is happening, yes.

Go South of WF, its. Part of our world, too.

Been,

I'll have to make a visit to Ricobene's for a breaded steak sandwich and check out the "regentrification". Don't forget, my dad had a body shop on Canalport and Jefferson and before that on Wentworth Av. in Chinatown. That was until the city threw he and my grandpa out to build the Dan Ryan. Just a little history on this Memorial Day.

been,

How come every negative thread started on here pertaining to the Cubs is from you?

You're like many of the sox fans I know, you're more worried about what the cubs are doing than what the rest of your division is doing. When the Cubs win their world series in less than the 250 years you're predicting do you think the cubs fans will gives a rats butt about the white sox? NOPE!

I congratulate the White Sox for winning the world title and I'm happy for the Sox fans who have been waiting for this their whole lives. But why don't you start acting like a champion and worry about what the Sox are going to do about Detroit rather than the Cubs inability to catch pop ups?

Good luck this summer!

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Don't forget, my dad had a body shop on Canalport and Jefferson

its...I lived at 1734 and 1814 S. Desplaines...the second one being right around the corner from where your dad had his auto body shop.

Small world.

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....When the Cubs win their world series in less than the 250 years you're predicting do you think the cubs fans will gives a rats butt about the white sox? NOPE!

by U...And that is PRECISELY why I, as a fan of the Chicago White Sox, World Series Champions in 2005, start some of these threads.

Just to aggravate you...who would like to cheer for the World Champion White Sox but you can't do so because your wives would leave you.

I've been doing some research. Not only is AJ the biggest punk in the Major Leagues, but Cub fans on average have a IQ 5 points higher than Sox fans, not to mention the Cubs have better attendance than the Sox do. Home and road.

My wife likes the food at The Cell Block better than Wrigley, so she wouldn't have a problem if I made a change to being a Sox fan.

Beenthere what did your wife say when you switched over? I hope she didn't leave you.

Fast....lololololol

I was unaware of the IQ quotient in "boy's town".

Ann Sathers should host the Mensa meetings.