Do Division 3 coaches continue recruiting through the winter months? If so, how does that work with the schools whose application deadlines are in January?
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TO add to Sbump's question..Can you do a workout with D3 and even NAIA schools if coach wants you to do unofficial visits? I think from what I've read the quiet period only pertains to DI and DII schools
SBump:
As has been mentioned prevously D3 recruiting often has to continue until deposits are received in the spring or summer. Since there is no baseball money involved students often are trying to figure out the financial aid packages from a few schools where he may have been accepted.
Ryanrod23:
I'm not sure of the rules in regards to any on-field workouts becasue none of the schools we visited expected 4thGen to workout.
As has been mentioned prevously D3 recruiting often has to continue until deposits are received in the spring or summer. Since there is no baseball money involved students often are trying to figure out the financial aid packages from a few schools where he may have been accepted.
Ryanrod23:
I'm not sure of the rules in regards to any on-field workouts becasue none of the schools we visited expected 4thGen to workout.
quote:Originally posted by 3rdgenerationnation:
Since there is no baseball money involved students often are trying to figure out the financial aid packages from a few schools where he may have been accepted.
If a coach wants a player, but he is a good, not a great student, is there academic scholarship money available for a student athlete at D3's?
quote:If a coach wants a player, but he is a good, not a great student, is there academic scholarship money available for a student athlete at D3's?
Yes, but you will have to work on academic scholarships through Admissions and the academic departments. I strongly suggest you look into this right away, as some of these (internal) scholarships are given to ED candidates. There may be some remaining (internal) scholarships for RD candidates but it will vary by school.
No on field workouts during OV or non-OVs for D1/D3. However, you can participate in a camp.
quote:If a coach wants a player, but he is a good, not a great student, is there academic scholarship money available for a student athlete at D3's?
I don't think that the coach can influence scholarship decisions. However, if a school wants someone there are multiple ways they can package grant/scholarship money.
In our situation our son got two sizeable grants. One was at a school that he did not attend. He had two family friends that were alumni write a very nice letter of recomendation. Based on the letter the school awarded him an $80K "alumni grant." The second scholarship was awarded by another school to "match" the net cost after scholarships that he had received from other schools that he had been admitted to.
My point is scholarhip/grant money is available. You need to use the resources available to you to either make the case or to help the school see why your "valuable" to the school.
Here's a question about D3 recruiting. If the coach communicates that he wants you to play for his program, does he still have you sign a NLI in April even though D3's don't offer scholarships? If yes, how does signing an NLI at a D3 benefit the player?
The National Letter of Intent program is only applicable to D1 and D2 schools. D3s, NAIA, and JUCo schools do not participate.
I'm not aware of any benefit to a player in signing any type of letter of intent with a D3.
I'm not aware of any benefit to a player in signing any type of letter of intent with a D3.
quote:Originally posted by 3FingeredGlove:
The National Letter of Intent program is only applicable to D1 and D2 schools. D3s, NAIA, and JUCo schools do not participate.
I'm not aware of any benefit to a player in signing any type of letter of intent with a D3.
Thanks 3FG! I didn't think they did, but wasn't sure what security if any a D3 player has when he tells a coach he will come play for him. A friend of mine asked me the question, "What keeps the coach from finding someone else between now and August?" I told him I really didn't know but he should ask the coach that question and see what he says. In the meantime, I thought I would do a little research myself. Thanks again!
The reality is in D3 the coach has no idea what players he will have until everyone shows up at school in the fall.
The lack of $ does make the conversation with D3 coaches a little more vague. My experience, however, was when asked directly about where player fit into the program, the coaches were straightforward and accurate in their assessment. This is son's 3rd year at a DIII. I have not seen the coaches surprised at who showed up for fall practices. The currency at the D3's my son spoke with was the admission process. If the coach told son he would go to bat with admissions for him, we were confident that there would be a place on the roster.
At my son's D3 - they haven't had a walk-on in years. Every kid, as far as I know, had coach support with admissions, and no one showed up at fall practice unannounced.
We were told by one D3 coach that there are players he recruits then there are players that the University expects him to help out getting them to come to the school thats one reason there are so many players on some d3 programs. He said the University would like him to have more positions on the team just for that purpose but he said he keeps it to a low 40's roster. He said the players he recruits dont have to worry about try outs but the others do. Just wanted to add this bit of info for newbies to the recruting process.
This thread is a great reminder to ask questions. I suspect there are many difference among DIII programs and it would not be safe to make any assumptions.
Take this for what it's worth.
Son is 2014 RHP. I spoke with a D3 coach a few months ago that saw his recruiting site video.
I called because the $30K tuition was beyond our means and I said so. With a 3.5 GPA, the coach felt confident that the tuition would come down under $10K. It certainly got me to thinking - that could be a lot more money than you might get going to a D1! He was pretty frank that it's an unlikely route to playing pro ball however; it looks like it could be a lot of fun and a fairly prestigious school too.
One of the members here counselled me dont turn away from any potential opportunities until you have all the facts and data or they tell you they're not interested. Originally, I wasn't even looking at D3's.
Son is 2014 RHP. I spoke with a D3 coach a few months ago that saw his recruiting site video.
I called because the $30K tuition was beyond our means and I said so. With a 3.5 GPA, the coach felt confident that the tuition would come down under $10K. It certainly got me to thinking - that could be a lot more money than you might get going to a D1! He was pretty frank that it's an unlikely route to playing pro ball however; it looks like it could be a lot of fun and a fairly prestigious school too.
One of the members here counselled me dont turn away from any potential opportunities until you have all the facts and data or they tell you they're not interested. Originally, I wasn't even looking at D3's.
Did this D3 coach know your son is a 2014?
When one combines the total cost of attending a college(far more than just tuition of $30,000) with the annual cost escalations over the past 5 or so years, it seems like the total cost, with tuition being $30,000, might well be double that amount by the Fall of 2014.
Combine those cost and escalation items with endowments and financial aid being crunched by the current economy and investment returns, and it is hard to conceive that the President and Board of Trustees of a University might be able to predict anything reliably for 2014 cost of attendance or the amount and qualifications for any aid available.
Maybe the coach was speaking in today's $$$$, but if the discussion was based on tuition of $30,000, room, board, books, fees, travel, incidentals and other items need to be added.
For a 2014, pick a multiplier and don't bother to call the Federal Reserve. College cost inflation has not been under control.
When one combines the total cost of attending a college(far more than just tuition of $30,000) with the annual cost escalations over the past 5 or so years, it seems like the total cost, with tuition being $30,000, might well be double that amount by the Fall of 2014.
Combine those cost and escalation items with endowments and financial aid being crunched by the current economy and investment returns, and it is hard to conceive that the President and Board of Trustees of a University might be able to predict anything reliably for 2014 cost of attendance or the amount and qualifications for any aid available.
Maybe the coach was speaking in today's $$$$, but if the discussion was based on tuition of $30,000, room, board, books, fees, travel, incidentals and other items need to be added.
For a 2014, pick a multiplier and don't bother to call the Federal Reserve. College cost inflation has not been under control.
The coach definitely knew he was a Grade 9 and a 2014. I initiated the call and it was out in the first few minutes.
I believe he was speaking in today's money and tuition only.
All good points you have there.
I believe he was speaking in today's money and tuition only.
All good points you have there.
quote:Originally posted by Notlongtilicantcatchim:
The coach definitely knew he was a Grade 9 and a 2014. I initiated the call and it was out in the first few minutes.
I believe he was speaking in today's money and tuition only.
All good points you have there.
Don't mean to be negative, but why would a parent of a 2014 contact a coach at this time anyway? Let your son develop into a stud, then you can start calling. I know they are very nice when you get them on the phone, but the impression I get is that let them grow, develop, you can talk business later on.
I don't even see the point of a website as a freshman, sophmore.
Discussing scholarships 4-5 years before they are ready to attend, with a coach, I just don't get the point, I don't think that anyone has any idea what will be next year let alone in 4-5.
I think that some of you parents really need to just relax and let your kids mature, improve their skills, concentrate in the classroom, take their tests and the rest will work out, when the time for them is right.
JMO.