D1 Transfer

3fingered glove will be able to give you some guidance, however until he posts, go ahead and take a look at this NCAA 2010-2011 transfer guide.


http://www.ncaapublications.co...ads/TGONLINE2010.pdf

Good luck with your decision.

You don't need a release to play at a CA JUCO.

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Originally posted by Ballplayer2010:
I'm currently a freshman at a Division One school. After about a month or so, I realize I made a mistake in my college choice. I didn't evaluate all of the aspects of my college experience (academics and socially), and I'm very unhappy. I'm looking to transfer and play this Spring. Because I want to play this Spring I'm mainly looking to transferring to a D3 school or JUCO for the Spring. I know I have to obtain a release. How would I go about this? Would this enable me to play this spring at a D3 school, and what're the chances of this?

Thanks for all of your guys help.

What you are feeling is most probably felt by many, many players their first time away from home.

My suggestion would be to hang in there and at least play your first season, then you can take the time to reevaluate and transfer, and do some more homework on different programs and schools, instead of perhaps making another hasty decision.

And do remember, the grass isn't always greener on the other side of the fence.

JMO

By NCAA rule, you can transfer mid-year and play in the spring at D3 and D2 schools. You can not transfer mid-year and play in the spring at a D1.

For D3, the school should obtain permission from your current school in order to talk to you. But if you simply show up on campus, then no permission is needed.

For D2 and D1, permission to talk is again required, and if it was not obtained, no financial aid can be awarded for one year. Additionally, your current school must provide a release which agrees to the one-time transfer exception. Absent the release, the player has to sit out one year.

JC rules depend on which association has jurisdiction. For the NJCAA, I believe that no permission or release is required if the player is transferring from a non-NJCAA school.

I personally would advise you to stay in your current school until the end of the academic year. If you do leave mid-year, be sure to have your academics in good order. D3 rules require a transfer player to be academically and athletically eligible at his previous school in order to be eligible. Please don't allow feelings of an academic misfit to enable an academic let-down.

Privacy rules allow for you to obtain a contact release form without speaking with your coaching staff about it so you don't burn bridges. Send the release form to schools that you're considering and if a coach chooses to contact you, you can take it as them having an interest in you. If the situation feels bad, make arrangements towards other options but continue to preserve relationships at your current school. Things can change quickly in a few months

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Originally posted by tcw_17:
Privacy rules allow for you to obtain a contact release form without speaking with your coaching staff about it so you don't burn bridges. Send the release form to schools that you're considering and if a coach chooses to contact you, you can take it as them having an interest in you. If the situation feels bad, make arrangements towards other options but continue to preserve relationships at your current school. Things can change quickly in a few months

tcw_17, Do you know that for sure, because the current program has the option of stating what schools you can and can not go to, often time conference schools, they (compliance) also sends the completed form to the schools, but I know of some situations which occurred that a player was restricted from going where his pitching coach was going and where his brother's former pitching coach was at and others that were pretty wide and not within the conference.

Thank you for all the help thus far. TCW_17, how would I go about this? I haven't heard of this process.All of this is really helpful.

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Originally posted by Ballplayer2010:
Thank you for all the help thus far. TCW_17, how would I go about this? I haven't heard of this process.All of this is really helpful.

Are you on athletic scholarship?

No, I am not.

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Originally posted by Ballplayer2010:
No, I am not.

That would make it less restrictive in moving in the spring.

Besides the school portion and being one of the few that is not from the state or adjoining state, being one of 4 catchers and being the only freshman it could be rough for a couple of years.

tcw_17,
Players who are at a D3 school may self-release for a 30 day period to allow contact with a second D3 school. (13.1.1.2 and following). If the player decides to not transfer, the original school is not informed, but if at the end of 30 days he is undecided or plans to transfer, the original school must be informed within 7 days.

Contact regarding a potential transfer in other situations (including a NAIA to NCAA transfer) require permission to contact signed by the original school's AD, or an athletic administrator designated by the AD.

So as I read the rules, the Ballplayer2010 should expect his coach to find out that he is contemplating a transfer once he contacts a different school.

I know this question is rather vague, but:

Are schools generally unwilling to take on transfer players that transfer in the Spring when they were playing fall baseball for another University?

What are the chances I might find a school that would take me on for this 2011 season? Pretty small?

I would say pretty high....get your release and then "go shopping" d2/d3/naia (don't forget this option)/juco schools will take a mid-year player if they fit their needs/school.

I would think that unless the baseball player is a flat out STUD or the program you were transfering too was generally weak, transferring over the winter and playing in the Spring seems to be quite a stretch.

Your best bet will be to honor your comitment and have a great season so that programs that may be more suitable for you wish to have you around.

I believe that transferring mid year send bad signals all the way around.

If you are the player that can carry a team or make a huge impact in whatever program you choose, then you are in the drivers seat. Other than that, you may be seriously hurting your chances of playing.

How many players are there that want to play at the next level? How could this possibly be easy doing a mid year transfer. Cal State is shutting down baseball, where are those players going? If you do this it will not be easy.

If the current situation is clearly not going to work out, then Juco may be best option to play this year.

It is something that has been done numerous times that I have seen in the past five years. Sometimes it has been due to poor academic fit with the four-year school. Other times, the player was told after the fall session that either he was going to be red shirted, or that his playing time was going to be minimal. Under those terms, sticking it out is wasting a year.

I imagine there are Juco schools near your home who are familiar with you. I would start with those and see what potential good fits are out there.

In the cases I have seen, the players returned to Jucos near their respective homes, started, and moved forward from there. I'd say they made the right choice. I wish my son had seen the signs and moved on then rather that waiting until his sophomore year...which is also fairly common.

One of the reasons I am looking elsewhere for Spring 2011 is that the academic situation here is far too easy, not too rigorous. So I'm skeptical with the JUCO option as that is probably even easier academically. Has anyone had experience in D3 schools offering Spring transfer spots?

I know of several d1/d2 kids who have transferred to naia/d3 schools and played (started) right away in February/March when the season started....make a list of schools that fit your academic needs and I can gurantee one of them will take you in the spring if you can play.

My son went Juco to D3 in January of last year. Can be done - biggest challenge was actually admissions/administration. Getting all of the paperwork done was definitely a challenge - and they weren't much help. Check the application deadlines carefully, many schools are closing or have closed.

If you were admitted into a specific D3 out of HS and declined them at the time and are now reconsidering going there, many schools can give you a fast admission by reopening your application file. Typically they have a two year retention.

Hope this helps. Feel free to PM

ballplayer2010 check your pm

Ballplayer - Let me encourage you. My son was in your exact situation. He, too, was very dissatisfied with the academics and the social situation among other things. We strongly encouraged him to finish the year. He did. He then went to a JUCO (B/c he had a year of DI under his belt, many JUCOs showed interest)where he had an amazing year on the field and he made a 4.0 in the classroom. He is now playing at one of the best academic schools in the nation and he received a great baseball scholarship. It has been a long road, but in the end it turned out great.

Hang in there and best of luck to you.

Ballplayer,
I regularly run into this situation with players going out of area, and realizing it is not what they expected. Especially in the Mid Atlantic with kids going South. I would generally say that trying to transfer and play in the spring is going to be a program by program situation. Some schools accept these transfers, some are not interested. Simply put, if there is a need for your position, then the program or coach will probably be more willing to accept someone. However, if your position is not a need, then there won't be interested. I would recommend talking to your HS Coach or maybe a placement company or someone you know that is "in the know" and have them ask around if they are looking for a player that matches your talents. Then you can put the school's academics and baseball program together and figure if it's a good match. As HitaHomer said, there have been many before you in this situation and there will be many after you. Good Luck to you!