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DBAT MUSTANGS

Ken GuthrieKen Guthrie1,000+ posts
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Originally posted by theygrowupfast:
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Originally posted by Ken Guthrie:
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Originally posted by tychco:
Ken, I do appreciate the sentiment you have regarding the old way of doing things


"Old Way"

And to think, I'm only 32. Big Grin

.....and yet you've done and know so much more
than us 49+ year olds! Wink


When it comes to baseball...........YES.

Like Charlie Pride would tell me....

"No brag, just a fact."

Big Grin
Ken GuthrieKen Guthrie1,000+ posts
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Originally posted by Panther Dad:
After all, Ken, you were a bullpen catcher for the mighty Texas Rangers and you probably slept in a Holiday Inn Express or two along the way.

Roll Eyes


Actually my claim to fame was when I was the only 11 year old to make the cities Little League All Star team.

And don't forget my days in the minor leagues, I guess that don't count for nothing.

But yeah, I did get named to the All-Century team as bullpen catcher.

In my best Muhamad Ali voice.........

ah, never mind, you don't get it.
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PBBPBB10+ posts
Well back in the old days when you rustled up someone else's horse and you didn't want to get caught or strung up by the neck because you know they hung horse thieves. So you might try covering up the brand with a new one, that way no one would be the wiser... and that's where the star was
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JAFOJAFO100+ posts
I probably missed the post that stated what I am about to say. Been away a while and it's just too much to absorb at one time.

Any way here goes:

The DBat Mustangs…….. It has an interesting ring. As for the reason…….. It's gotta be the competitive drive of not winning the "BIG ONE" for a few years. These teams are "ICONS" in the Biz. Everyone knows them, nation wide. So putting the teams together will not make a huge difference on metroplex baseball for the following reasons.

The Top Players want to be on the top teams. There are so many spots on those top teams. When those top teams are full then you move down to the second tier of those top teams. In a players/parents mind the top is what they are trying to achieve. Now before you go jumping on me.....there are those die hards that think the second tier is only a stepping stone and that if they bide their time they will get that chance at the top tier within that organization.

Now here comes the rub. Jimmy is not exactly what Coach "A" wants on his top tier team but he would look good on the next level team. The parents (which are a very fickled bunch) want Jimmy to be on the best of the best. With instructions for the past 16 years he should be able to achieve this. Jimmy's parental unit/units are not happy and will look for other options. Which is where the Marshals, Tigers and any other perceived top tier organization benefit. Is it the best team? Who’s to say. But there are other avenues and chemistry is sometimes the deciding factor.

Scout league is a marvelous concept and works well for fall baseball. Teams are structured they way they are for maximum exposure. However when summer comes around the deck will be stacked differently with the maximum effort geared toward winning. Players will move, and really good players will be going to the other top tier teams based on this and other factors.

So bottom line is, the DBAT Mustang merger will not make a significant alteration of the "GRAND ORDER" of metroplex baseball. Sure they may be a little better with a larger talent pool to pull from, but on the back side of that will be a greater trickle down effect of very good players that have not caught the eye of the DBAT Mustang selection committee. It's going to take a lot of convincing to have the 23rd best player in the metroplex to play on the second team where he is was probably a #6 player on one of the prior merger teams.

And now on to the perceived little guys. The Marshals, Tigers and others are probably thinking this is a win for us. Due to the fact we have the opportunity to give the guy that just couldn't fit in the system due to the numbers a real exposure effort on our team at the same time making our team a little better than it was.

So, be the purist I am. The farm system will work for DBAT, Mustangs, Marshals, Tigers and all the other perceived top tier team. If not by concept, by trickle down economics.

Sorry for the ramble.
doubledaydoubleday100+ posts
Hey...you can only play 9 at a time. Granted, pitching is always an issue when playing week long tourneys, so D-Bat/Mustangs should field a stronger single "A-Team". However, I think the position players not starting for the "A-Team" will look for greener pastures and funnel some talent to the other organizations in the Metroplex.
M Maverick0714500+ posts
quote:
Originally posted by JAFO:
I probably missed the post that stated what I am about to say. Been away a while and it's just too much to absorb at one time.

Any way here goes:

The DBat Mustangs…….. It has an interesting ring. As for the reason…….. It's gotta be the competitive drive of not winning the "BIG ONE" for a few years. These teams are "ICONS" in the Biz. Everyone knows them, nation wide. So putting the teams together will not make a huge difference on metroplex baseball for the following reasons.

The Top Players want to be on the top teams. There are so many spots on those top teams. When those top teams are full then you move down to the second tier of those top teams. In a players/parents mind the top is what they are trying to achieve. Now before you go jumping on me.....there are those die hards that think the second tier is only a stepping stone and that if they bide their time they will get that chance at the top tier within that organization.

Now here comes the rub. Jimmy is not exactly what Coach "A" wants on his top tier team but he would look good on the next level team. The parents (which are a very fickled bunch) want Jimmy to be on the best of the best. With instructions for the past 16 years he should be able to achieve this. Jimmy's parental unit/units are not happy and will look for other options. Which is where the Marshals, Tigers and any other perceived top tier organization benefit. Is it the best team? Who’s to say. But there are other avenues and chemistry is sometimes the deciding factor.

Scout league is a marvelous concept and works well for fall baseball. Teams are structured they way they are for maximum exposure. However when summer comes around the deck will be stacked differently with the maximum effort geared toward winning. Players will move, and really good players will be going to the other top tier teams based on this and other factors.

So bottom line is, the DBAT Mustang merger will not make a significant alteration of the "GRAND ORDER" of metroplex baseball. Sure they may be a little better with a larger talent pool to pull from, but on the back side of that will be a greater trickle down effect of very good players that have not caught the eye of the DBAT Mustang selection committee. It's going to take a lot of convincing to have the 23rd best player in the metroplex to play on the second team where he is was probably a #6 player on one of the prior merger teams.

And now on to the perceived little guys. The Marshals, Tigers and others are probably thinking this is a win for us. Due to the fact we have the opportunity to give the guy that just couldn't fit in the system due to the numbers a real exposure effort on our team at the same time making our team a little better than it was.

So, be the purist I am. The farm system will work for DBAT, Mustangs, Marshals, Tigers and all the other perceived top tier team. If not by concept, by trickle down economics.

Sorry for the ramble.


I've seen the Tigers and Marshals organizations. I've never perceived them as the Little Guys... More like 500 pound Gorillas...
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