DH and re-entry question

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Originally posted by gashouse-gang:
Federation rules...if a player pinch hits for the original DH...can he reenter the game?

Which "he?" The DH, yes. The pinch-hitter, no.

Anyone in any of the 9 or 10 listed in the starting lineup can re-enter. Anyone who is not cannot.

Thanks Matt!!
Player A is the original DH...
Player B pinch hits for Player A...
..so Player A can reenter and Player B cannot?
Thanks for the clarification!

Play real baseball and you don't have to worry about it.

What if in the original lineup,
Player A was hitting for Player B?

I believe in that case, Player B can hit for Player A and then they can each return to their original configuration Player A hitting for Player B (in the field).

Of course this isn't actually pinch hitting.

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Originally posted by Will:
Play real baseball and you don't have to worry about it.

If by "real baseball" you mean straight OBR, I don't know of a level or league short professional baseball that plays "real baseball."

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Originally posted by JMoff:
What if in the original lineup,
Player A was hitting for Player B?

I believe in that case, Player B can hit for Player A and then they can each return to their original configuration Player A hitting for Player B (in the field).

Of course this isn't actually pinch hitting.

Let me make sure I'm right here. You have Jones as a DH for Smith. Later, you have Smith bat.

At this point, the DH is removed from the game and Smith becomes the batting spot for that position.

Fed 3-1-4a: The role of the designated hitter is terminated for the remainder of the game when:
a. the defensive player, or any previous defensive player for whom the designated hitter batted, subsequently bats, pinch-hits or pinch-runs for the designated hitter

sorry guys>>>
-Player A is the DH for Player C(not hitting,field yes)
-Player B(off bench,not in starting lineup) pinch hits for Player A, Player C is still in field

-so...player B cannot re-enter game?

But Jones can come back for Smith, correct?

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Originally posted by gashouse-gang:
sorry guys>>>
-Player A is the DH for Player C(not hitting,field yes)
-Player B(off bench,not in starting lineup) pinch hits for Player A, Player C is still in field

-so...player B cannot re-enter game?

From NFHS Rule 3-1-3:
ART. 3 Any of the starting players may be withdrawn and re-entered once, including a player who was the designated hitter, provided such player occupies the same batting position whenever he is in the lineup. .... A substitute who is withdrawn may not re-enter.

So Player B can't re-enter, no matter who he substituted for.

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sorry guys>>>
-Player A is the DH for Player C(not hitting,field yes)
-Player B(off bench,not in starting lineup) pinch hits for Player A, Player C is still in field

-so...player B cannot re-enter game?

In this scenario Player B becomes the DH when he subs for Player A. If Player A re-enters for Player B he returns as the DH and Player B is done for the game.

Thanks for all the help guys!

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If by "real baseball" you mean straight OBR, I don't know of a level or league short professional baseball that plays "real baseball."

I had the privelege of coaching in a league that played major league rules with modifications 2 out could run for pitcher or catcher intentional walk just send him down played 7 innings. they went to the Federation rules about 8 or 9 years ago.

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Originally posted by Will:

quote:

If by "real baseball" you mean straight OBR, I don't know of a level or league short professional baseball that plays "real baseball."

I had the privelege of coaching in a league that played major league rules with modifications 2 out could run for pitcher or catcher intentional walk just send him down played 7 innings.

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