Dirtbags Baseball

Usually people are very accommodating when new members join the board. But I agree with PG. it is quite cowardly to slander an organization and not use your real name. Maybe if we ignore this cowardly whiner and complainer he will either leave the site or become a normal participant. There isn't a reponse he's willing to accept. He's here to bash and slander. 

I've heard the same complaints about a couple of programs in our area. For some reason parents are under the delusion their kids are going to play major college baseball because their kids are In the program in underage programs or on the 17U B or C teams. I would have had no problem had my son chose to play on their A teams. I know players who did. But the teams weren't geographically desirable for us. And it cost a lot more than $1875.

Shame on anyone doesn't investigate a program in year one if their son is considering the program in year two. 

I am nearly 100% certain that TPM is sitting on her couch reading this thread with her blood boiling. She already gave a very politically correct and appropriate response (atta girl! Haha), so now I'll take my turn at being blunt and straight to the point.

Polkey- you will gain no respect or sympathy here badmouthing an organization in the manner that you are. It's cowardly and immature. Take your own advice and read other people's responses before forming an opinion.

If everything you say is true, I'm sorry that you feel deceived by the organization. But, from my experience, your opinion holds no water in my mind.

In short, put up or shut up. No one really wants to read mindless complaining.

 I'm not asking for respect or sympathy from anyone, actually I don't see where it is anyones business unless you are actually dealing with the dirtbags scout teams. what you call bad mouthing I call facts. If you don't like what I say then simply don't read it. It sounds to me like I've stepped on a couple of toes and the truth hurts. All I've done in these posts is ask questions and report the facts and if anyone cannot take hearing the truth then it's your problem ,not mine. I've already said that I'm a grown man and I'll lick my wounds and go on, but you can understand this much, if anyone wants any information about the dirtbags scout teams and they read these posts they will learn a lot. I'm going to say one more time when we went to the tryouts they were advertised on another website as college prep tryouts, then they were advertised as 14u tryouts, then the letter was sent and they were changed to instructional teams, then after the money was paid they were changed to scout teams. These teams have one coach in charge of two teams, that's one coach for 28 players. We wasn't told any of this before we paid the money. There was no way to investigate anything because the dirtbags didn't even have scout teams last year. Last year as far as I know, if you went to a dirtbags try out, you either made the team or you didn't. That's the reason I ask in my very first post if someone could give me some objective information about the dirtbags. We played travel ball for the past several years and I think we played the dirtbags one time in usssa.I did hear that the dirtbags was one of the best organizations in North Carolina and that was one reason we went to the tryouts, really just to see if we were good enough to make their team and we was very excited when we got an invitation to play for them and we will continue to play for them. As far as posting what the dirtbags do and how they do it, if it isn't a lie then I see nothing wrong with what I say. I've said nothing about anything other than the scout teams, because that's the only dealings I have with the dirtbags. I've made no other posts on here under no other name and I've told no lies. I've not said one negative thing to the young man that is playing for the dirtbags. (he played this past weekend) As far as being a coward and immature you're entitled to your opinion just like I'm entitled to mine. I have know idea who you people are and don't care, but you have know right to tell me that what I'm doing is cowardly and immature. I'm stating facts and if you wasn't there then you know nothing about it. 

Am I missing something here?

yep ,,, you sure are ,, like I said in other posts I'm just telling about our experience with the dirtbags. They did lie to us and they did deceive us, but, I never said we are quitters. I told everyone that I would lick my wounds and go on and that's what I'll do. The young man that I go watch is good, he's real good and I have all the faith in the world that he will grow in the dirtbags organization and have fun and that's all I care about. You see I'm really in it for the children. He has enough talent to speak for himself and he will make the dirtbags look good. He is exactly what they look for. He is a straight "A" student with all honors classes in high school. He is only fourteen years old, a freshman and was moved to the varsity team. He believes in Jesus Christ as his Saviour, as I do. So you see when you call someone a coward without knowing them you might be talking with tongue in cheek. There are several travel teams that have ask him to play for them and there is a good chance the dirtbags will ask him to play for the again next year. We'll see. So now TPM do you feel like a big man in front of all your fans??? All the name calling and accusations you make will never change what the dirtbags did. I feel sorry for all the other people whose money they took, knowing their child doesn't have a chance to ever be a baseball player. That's what makes it wrong!!!    

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polkey- I think "licking your wounds and moving on" may be some good advice at this point.

And, just for full disclosure, I alerted a moderator about your previous post. There is no place on these message boards to call someone a "pitiful human being."

Best of luck to you.

Dirtbags is incredibly expensive and a huge waste of money. My son has played on many teams, but this one is the most expensive and the worst one.  There is no coaching, even on game day...line up changes randomly and players who are "pitcher only" have to get at-bats during games for no reason.  There is no learning taking place, just a guy -- who calls himself the coach -- to fill in the roster and watch the game along with everyone else. Teams have around 18 players and everyone has to play regardless of where they stand on the depth roster...they paid their money, so they play. One team in an age group is stacked and the other teams are split a lot more evenly. Consequently, only one team generally wins a lot of games and the rest are very average.  We obviously quit chasing trophies and all the kid-stuff a long time ago, but if you are looking for a good baseball experience with quality coaching and a good baseball coaching mentality, I would stay away from the dirtbags and concentrate on a good local team where the coaching staff gives a crap.  Dirtbags baseball is about making as much money as they can to feed the owners ego. 

It is very normal for program's A teams to be loaded and other level teams not to be. The A team is loaded because they are the A team. At the showcase level the Dirtbags organization I'm familiar with is one of the better programs in the country. One of it's former coaches, Kenny May is one of the most knowledgeable coaches and posters who has ever participated on this site.

Signing up for a programs B or C team is a bad idea. Chances are you're funding the A team. Chances are your kid isn't good enough to play for the A team. Playing for the B or C team does not buy the same credibility as playing for the A team. You made a bad decision. Instead of bad mouthing an organization with your first post - which gets you zero credibility on this site - why not cut the losses on your bad decision and find a better place to play?

For everyone else: Pokey joined to slam the Dirtbags and never posted again. 

Maybe this team should change their name...

 It depends on who is running the teams now... people who care about ball players or just care about the $$$$.

Be careful when shopping around for a good travel team....

they can all be DirtBags.

If you are playing on team B or C maybe this program is not for you. Find a place where you fit so you can play on team 'A'

Originally Posted by RJM: I started this conversation ...

I'm not sure what happened in someone's cutting and pasting. But this is not my post.

So, if I have this right you're blaming the team for not doing due diligence on finding the right team. There are a lot of people on this board whose sons never played in a program that wasn't exactly what they thought it would be. Why? They did the research. You should be mad at yourself, not the team.

Jamesb , Im located in Chicagoland.  Not sure what part you are in or what team your son plays on, but I've been involved in travel ball here the last 10 years or so.  There are really only about 7 to 10 teams in the area that really get the kids exposure as well as provide them with decent instruction.  Many of the other teams claim to but if you look into it the kids have moved off the other teams when they hit HS onto one of the 7 to 10 teams.  If you want some help I would be more the happy to point you to those teams or let you know if I know anything about the organization you are playing for.  Just PM me.

Don't join a 15u travel team for college exposure...unless you are top 1% you won't see any real colleges till u16 and even then D3 don't get active...

RJM, I am mad at myself, but also JUSTIFIABLY at the team as well, as they never told me they were going to have 17 players on the roster. So you think $2000/player is acceptable? Like I said, I had a 13U and 14U travel team. The most any of these teams should be charging is 1000/player. 2000/player is excessive in my opinion.You must be one of these high priced travel team owners as you are defending them so much.