Does the run count??

Yes. The run counts, provided the runner scoring touched home plate.

I'm usually reluctant to disagree with Redbird because he can forget more about baseball on a good day than I ever learned, but in this case I think I do.

The exception to Federation Rule 9-1-1 says:

"A run is not scored if the runner advances to home plate during action in which the third out is made as follows: . . . when a third out is declared during a play resulting from a valid defensive appeal which results in a force out (this out takes precedence if enforcement of it would negate a score)."

[Added later:] I'm a little tentative here because of that phrase "force out."

[Added even later:] And 3FG just explained why.

This happened in the Florida - LSU game Thursday night. FL had runners on 2nd and 3rd with one out. The batter hit a gapper to RCF and the right fielder made a nice diving catch. R3 tagged up and scored before, or so the home plate umpire ruled, R2 was out at 2nd for not getting back to the bag after the catch. The run counted.

The run scores. The key is that a retouch appeal is not a force play. OBR AR following 4.09 has the exact play:
APPROVED RULING: One out, Jones on third, Smith on first, and Brown flies out to right field. Two outs. Jones tags up and scores after the catch. Smith attempted to return to first but the right fielder’s throw beat him to the base. Three outs. But Jones scored before the throw to catch Smith reached first base, hence Jones’ run counts. It was not a force play.

The NCAA AR is 5-6c A.R. 2—If there is one out with runners on third base and first or second base and a fly ball is caught, the runner on third base scores IF the individual tags up and touches home plate before the ball reaches the base of the other runner who had left too soon. This is NOT a force play.

ETA: found a FED reference: 8-2-6h: Tag-Ups. If a runner leaves a base too soon on a caught fly ball and returns in an attempt to retag, this is considered a time play and not a force out. If the appeal is the third out, all runs scored by runners in advance of the appealed runner and scored ahead of the legal appeal would count.

3FingeredGlove- Thanks much for your detailed and informed feedback. As a novice to the site, can you please tell me what the abbreviation "OBR" stands for, so that I might have the necessary document in hand when I prove to my disbelieving friend that he does actually owe me a cold Labatt's?

OBR = Official Baseball Rules

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Welcome aboard the HSBBW stickler...will you now be enjoying a cold Labatts®?

And OBR? I was leaning towards Our Burritos Rock!, but Only Burn Rubbish was catching up!



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Official Baseball Rules

Also read the definition of a force play in Rule 2, and 7.08d, which is the rule covering retouching after a caught airborne batted ball.

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"Whaddya' catch?"

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Same thing happened to my son's team last summer. The tagging up scenario is a timing play not a force...so the run counts.

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Originally posted by Swampboy:
I'm usually reluctant to disagree with Redbird...

hahahaha...thank you for the compliment but you give me waaay to much credit (and not enough to yourself).

This one happened to me during my playing days and I have never forgotten it. As golfball mentioned, this occurred in the UF v. LSU game. One of my pet peeves is EXACTLY what the R3 did...he started jogging and REALLY didn't beat the throw to score the run. (Luckily, the ump said he did). Why let up there? Why not sprint all the way through the base? I was very surprised to see Sully's team lose because of the little things.

Yes, the Labatts is coming my way and the beer is just as good as the egg on the face of the guy who disagreed with me at the time of the original call. He thinks he's a walking baseball encyclopedia. Thanks much to all for your guidance in locating the correct rule.