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Ok firstly, I want to apologize if this is a huge wall of text. It's just that I really have no clue as to what I should do.

Secondly, I see that this is a HS baseball forum, I am actually a couple years removed from HS, but in terms of eligibility, you wouldn't know the difference.

Ok, so now for the wall of text. I'm a 19 year old (former) pitcher, who hasn't played a competitive inning of baseball since my JR year. Things didn't go as planned & I of course got an arm injury. Many MRIs & doctor appointments later, no diagnosis was found, just tons of pain in my throwing arm. Long story short, I didn't play my SR year.

3 years pass & while I missed it greatly, I figured my baseball career was over. Low & behold, I pick up a baseball over the summer just for the heck of it & begin throwing with some friends. No pain whatsoever. Within a month I begin throwing bullpens w/ the former catcher from my HS. Still no pain. Pretty soon I'm popping the mitt with what he would say, mid to high 80's stuff. After 3 years off, I was able to get to the high 80's in a month. And, well that was enough for me.

The summer ended & I began contemplating trying to walk-on the fall team at the JUCO I attend. Turns out, I didn't. I was too paranoid as to whether I was in good enough shape to present myself & my off speed pitches didn't come back as naturally as my FB did. I don't know if passing on the try-outs was a good move or not, but only time will tell.

So here I sit in January, baseball season right around the corner. I've been lifting & running this whole winter & I'm getting ready to start throwing again, but I have a couple big questions..


What do I do? Do I simply send the coach of the school I'd like to play at an e-mail? How do I present myself to coaches when I haven't played ball in 3 years. I really have no idea how the recruiting process works, but I'd like to give it a try.

Thanks for reading. I'd greatly appreciate any type of advice you would have to offer.
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Since your situation is so unusual there is no established protocol so just weigh the different opinions you’re sure to get here on the HSBBW and then you decide your strategy. Here is my 2 cents for what it’s worth .... The “normal” method of getting “noticed” has passed for you but all isn’t lost. You also haven’t built a resume but that doesn’t eliminate you either. You have to be proactive and in my opinion you will have to walk on --- so go for it! It would greatly benefit you if you can convince the coach that you do have the talent to play PRIOR to the walk on. One way you could do this is to single out the catcher on the team and ask him if he would catch a pen for you. I feel sure he would do this for you and at this time you could get his opinion on your talent and you chances of making the team and then ask him if he would tell the coach about you and your desire to walk on ---and/or---- arrange a “one on one” meeting with the coach and explain your situation and ask him what route you should take. He may have time to watch you throw a pen or he may have a camp you can attend prior to the walk on tryouts. Don’t send the email because at this point you need more than “words” to impress a coach and he may not even get the email. While I’m impressed with your post here on the HSBBW and your desire to play, the coach will be more interested in your talent than your “story”. You need to be more direct since you don’t have a resume. Best of luck and keep us posted.
Fungo
Funfo Great post I would like to add a couple things
Be sure to get your arm in shape and ready for the bullpen. First impressions are everything! If your poppin they will come knockin! I know it's hard to get a non catcher to catch but find a friend w/ a mask and a place to pitch, be prepared!!! "players talk and players want to win"
I don't think you could walk on & expect to play this season...Rosters may already be set.
However, do follow instruction from fungo & my2cents exactly!!
My opinion is, you may still have a shot...just depends on your talent & determination, coaches liking what you've got & him having a need.
I say go for it!
Best of luck!! keep us posted.
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Originally posted by baseballmom:
I don't think you could walk on & expect to play this season...Rosters may already be set.


I don't think that's necessarily true, especially for a JUCO. JUCO rosters tend to be much more fluid as the commitment to the school is not the same as you would find at a D1 (although at baseball powerhouse JUCO's this may not be true). Add to that the mercenary attitude of coaches, and I think that a pitcher that shows up and impresses a coach with the ability to eat up innings in a quality way, and the coach will find a way to roster him if possible.
When did you first enroll full time at a JUCO? As far as NCAA eligibility goes you have 5 years to get in 4 seasons of playing time in your sport from the time you first enroll in college full time. In other words, if this is your second year you have nothing to lose by going out for the team as you only have 3 years of eligibility for NCAA left after this year if that is the case. Things can be a bit different if going to an NAIA school is an option. 3finger is the resident expert on these things so shoot him a PM if you've got any questions.
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CADad:

While the 5 years to play 4 rule is the case for D1, at D2 and D3 it is a different rule. You have 10 full time semesters to play 4 semesters.

As for playing this spring, most top JUCOs will have made their roster decisions based upon fall practices - but, at least in CA, there are always transfers which occur in January with guys going out for the team in practices which are starting now.

I would suggest that the OP look at the JCs in his area - see which ones have a smaller roster and or a traditionally weaker team (e.g. someone who is not a top JUCO) - and call the coach. Odds are he will be willing to take a look - and potentially have room to add you to the roster as a spring player. You will have to demonstrate skill to get innings - but at least you will have a place to practice, throw pens and generally get your game together.
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Hey everyone, thank you so much for your feed back.

JUCO out here in AZ is pretty competitive, so I don't think I'll be able to find a team within the next month. My plan was to keep working out & build up my arm strength so that come summer time, my arm is more than ready, but not burnt out. I'm a little disappointed in the 4 in 5 rule, seeing as I'm about to start my 4th full-time semester in college. I will take a closer look into all of the rules (any links I should know about?). I'm guessing that while it would be unlikely, it still isn't out of the question to have some kind of exception made.

Once again, thanks for the help & if anyone else has comments or words of advice, I'd be more than grateful.
You may want to check into the NAIA route because the rules are a lot more forgiving. I don't know any specifics per se but here are two stories about guys I know and they were ruled legal by the NAIA.

1. One guy who played football lead the team in special team tackles during the season he was redshirted. Yes I said that correctly - he was on special teams and was the leading tackler although he was taking his redshirt year.

2. One guy who played baseball a couple of seasons after I did spent 3 or 4 years in minor league ball. After he washed out he played 3 years at an NAIA school.

Like I said I don't know any specifics but you might be able to research them on the naia website. But I do know for a fact the naia said both situations were ok and no rules were violated.

Good luck and keep us posted.
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Originally posted by coach2709:
You may want to check into the NAIA route because the rules are a lot more forgiving.


Football player dropped out of D1 school after freshman year...went back to that school after 3 years and coach promised him, that although he only had 1 year of eligibility left, if he came back, he'd be able to get him another...the coach lied. Player played that one year and NCAA said no, to more eligibility.

Wanting to play pro ball, this wide receiver wound up at NAIA Chadron State in ND and played two years. He became the #1 pick of the Buffalo Bills and is now the answer to the trivia question...What pro player has played in the most Super Bowls...

Don Beebe. 4 with the Bills and 2 with the Packers.
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baseballjunkie,
"4 in 5" isn't semesters...it is 4 years of play time in 5 years of college.
Look over the recruiting tips section of this site...even though you're not in the "customary recruiting process" group, I think you may find some tips, how to present yourself, overcoming any fear (False Evidence Appearing Real), and a few other things that will help you.
Were you at Chandler?
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Originally posted by baseballmom:
baseballjunkie,
"4 in 5" isn't semesters...it is 4 years of play time in 5 years of college.
Look over the recruiting tips section of this site...even though you're not in the "customary recruiting process" group, I think you may find some tips, how to present yourself, overcoming any fear (False Evidence Appearing Real), and a few other things that will help you.
Were you at Chandler?


Thank you. I understood the 4 in 5 thing, but since I'll be entering my 4th semester, that means I'm already into/finishing up my second year. BTW I'm Glendale/Peoria. Almost an hour from Chandler.
Well I just got back from a vacation before I had to head back to school. I guess I'm going to go talk to the coach at my JUCO & see if he is willing to give me a tryout for a spot on the roster or even to red-shirt. I haven't thrown in a couple months, should I explain this to him or try to get my arm into shape before thinking about trying out. I know I'm kinda running out of time. Any feedback would be appreciated.
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Originally posted by Coach_May:
Talk to the coach and let him know you are interested. You might be surprised by his response. Ask him if you can throw a pen for him. The worse thing that can happen is he doesnt think you can help them. Most coaches can take a look at a kid and see potential. Every program is always looking for arms. Good luck

You are in a unique position because of what you can offer as a pitcher. As Coach May and others have pointed out, good arms are a premium. Because of that you have much more leverage, the coach has more options.
GED10DaD

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