Runners on first and third, 2 outs.Can the batter run on dropped third strike in high school ball?
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quote:Originally posted by tfox:
Runners on first and third, 2 outs.Can the batter run on dropped third strike in high school ball?
Yep. With 2 out, it makes no difference where runners are; a batter can always run on an uncaught third strike.
If that is the case, they missed one tonight. We had a batter make it to first and they still called him out on the strikeout.
Thats always hard to hear, but I know that it happens...and the reason its hard to hear, is that this is a baseball 101 rule.....
Not an excuse, but oftentimes in HS baseball, you might not get the best available umpire, just the most available umpire.....
Not an excuse, but oftentimes in HS baseball, you might not get the best available umpire, just the most available umpire.....
+1 PIAA It is sad but sometimes true. We stiill try to cover varsity with the good guys and then cover the rest.
I know its not just locally but with the 3:30- 4:00 start times assignors do the best they can to put good guys on the varsity games....
Most of us have regular 9-5 jobs and to make a 3-4 start time means we have to leave work at 2:00 or 2:30. I can do this only a limited amount of times without negative impact... The guys who are self-employed or retired are becoming fewer and far in between to find.
I have seen some of our best guys working PONY league games at 6:00 PM because they can easily make those start times...
ability vs. availability
Most of us have regular 9-5 jobs and to make a 3-4 start time means we have to leave work at 2:00 or 2:30. I can do this only a limited amount of times without negative impact... The guys who are self-employed or retired are becoming fewer and far in between to find.
I have seen some of our best guys working PONY league games at 6:00 PM because they can easily make those start times...
ability vs. availability
It was a freshman game and the ump did seem inexperienced but it seems like he would have asked for help.no big deal, we won the game.
The issue tfox, in my eyes at least, is that the 3rd strike not caught rule is baseball 101....
A freshman game could be assigned one of our less experienced guys, but if he passed the exam for certification, we would expect him to know this basic rule.
A freshman game could be assigned one of our less experienced guys, but if he passed the exam for certification, we would expect him to know this basic rule.
quote:Originally posted by piaa_ump:
The issue tfox, in my eyes at least, is that the 3rd strike not caught rule is baseball 101....
A freshman game could be assigned one of our less experienced guys, but if he passed the exam for certification, we would expect him to know this basic rule.
I watched a guy call a foul ball that was clearly foul by 8to10 feet that wasn't even over the foul pole but beside it a homerun. Some of these local guys probably didn't pass the test.
We had a bases loaded, two out dropped third strike in a varsity game. Ball rolled in front of the plate, lefty batter ran to first. Catcher went out in front of the plate, got the ball, stepped on the plate (very obviously and well before the runner from third was anywhere near HP). He then rolled the ball back to the mound and the team left the field.
Then two runs scored before the right fielder got the ball at the mound and stopped the merry go round.
After protest, umpires got together and changed call to out. Coach said when he went out to argue, HU was confused about the possibility of a force in this situation.
Then two runs scored before the right fielder got the ball at the mound and stopped the merry go round.
After protest, umpires got together and changed call to out. Coach said when he went out to argue, HU was confused about the possibility of a force in this situation.
"Some of these local guys probably didn't pass the test."
I don't know how it's in other states but in Texas, to call varsity level games, you have to pass the test. To do lower level games, you don't have to have passed the test.
I don't know how it's in other states but in Texas, to call varsity level games, you have to pass the test. To do lower level games, you don't have to have passed the test.
In my group everyone has to pass, by how much helps determine the quality of games.