Duke head coach resigns-- www.goduke.com
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There should be a long line of applicants for this job
I figured that was going to happen. Too bad, he let things get out hand there. They will need a strong, disciplined, and fair coach to get that program up and running again.
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TR...Agree.
...and they'll all GET BURIED by the likes of Miami, Florida State, North Carolina and Clemson.
...and they'll all GET BURIED by the likes of Miami, Florida State, North Carolina and Clemson.
BEEN
If the right guy and staff get in there they can turn it around---perhaps a new atmosphere is all that is needed--lots of dark clouds over the Dukies this year
They win in hoops why not baseball?
If the right guy and staff get in there they can turn it around---perhaps a new atmosphere is all that is needed--lots of dark clouds over the Dukies this year
They win in hoops why not baseball?
Ben you forgot one, UVA 
You both forgot another one ...
Georgia Tech.
It will take awhile to get the program back on track.
Georgia Tech.
It will take awhile to get the program back on track.
Don't say the program cannot be turned around--the right guy can make it happen--Look at what Brian O'Connor has done at UVA!!
UVA knocked off Clemson yesterday
UVA knocked off Clemson yesterday
TRHit,
To compare the present situation at Duke with what Brian O'Connor took over at UVa is being unfair to whomever the new coach will be. UVa had been a combined 54-57 overall, 19-28 in the ACC in the 2 seasons previous to O'Connor's arrival. The pitching staff had recorded ERA's of 3.41 in '03 and 3.63 in '04. Duke, on the other hand has gone 39-70 overall, 13-41 in the ACC and the ERA was 6.72 this year and 5.06 in '04. Plus, Brian O'Connor had a number of very solid, experienced players returning. A few were outstanding. He knew that it was a tremendous opportunity for him. He had turned down a couple of previous head coaching offers, waiting for the right one. That is not to say that someone couldn't turn the program around at Duke, but I believe that it will take a few years at least, and will not be a quick fix. The one similarity is that both programs were in desperate need of new coaching staffs. UVa was long overdue to make a change.
To compare the present situation at Duke with what Brian O'Connor took over at UVa is being unfair to whomever the new coach will be. UVa had been a combined 54-57 overall, 19-28 in the ACC in the 2 seasons previous to O'Connor's arrival. The pitching staff had recorded ERA's of 3.41 in '03 and 3.63 in '04. Duke, on the other hand has gone 39-70 overall, 13-41 in the ACC and the ERA was 6.72 this year and 5.06 in '04. Plus, Brian O'Connor had a number of very solid, experienced players returning. A few were outstanding. He knew that it was a tremendous opportunity for him. He had turned down a couple of previous head coaching offers, waiting for the right one. That is not to say that someone couldn't turn the program around at Duke, but I believe that it will take a few years at least, and will not be a quick fix. The one similarity is that both programs were in desperate need of new coaching staffs. UVa was long overdue to make a change.
Texas A&M and Duke will both hire high profile coaches. Texas A&M will get the biggest name.
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There are no quick fixes in baseball
But if Duke gets the right Head Coach and Staff thing can happen quickly
There are no quick fixes in baseball
But if Duke gets the right Head Coach and Staff thing can happen quickly
There are several things working against Duke. First of all they can not recruit locally at the level NC State , UNC , Wake Forest , UNC Wilmington , East Carolina , Appalacian State , Elon and UNC Greensboro can. Not to mention the fact that UVA , Virginia Tech , Clemson and USC are all over the talent in this state. Also there are a ton of great D-2 and D-3 schools with outstanding facilities and academics in state. The reason they can not is their facilities are way behind all of these schools. There tuition is 38k a year with 11.5 scholarships available that speaks for itself. Why would a top level player in our area go to Duke and play at facilities that are way behind these other schools and tuition that is way way more? They have to recruit top level talent on a national basis. Then they have to be great students. They have to sell the academics of Duke. They have to seriously upgrade their facilities and they have to show that they are serious about building a winning program. They are going to have an uphill battle competing in the ACC. They can not compete for the NC kids with all these other quality programs #1 because of the tuition. #2 because of the facilities. #3 because they have a terrible reputation of not being competitive. #4 because they have not shown that they are committed to baseball like they are to other sports. I hope that they turn it around. It will take a serious commitment from the powers to be. And they need to hire a dynamic coach that can sell the University and the program to kids outside our area and the few that they can get inside our area. JMO
In some regards, Duke is a much easier sell to out-of-state students because the tuition is the same for everyone. They don't have to recruit the in-state kid as hard.
Stanford recruits out of state just as they do in state. I do not believe schools like Duke and Stanford have to recruit heavily in state when kids from all around the country want to attend for the academics.
If my kid had a chance to attend I would be in his corner
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How do you know there is already a short list?
If my kid had a chance to attend I would be in his corner
o6
How do you know there is already a short list?
Duke and baseball and ACC = dead end job.
Duke and basketball and ACC = top job.
Too many of you are being "blinded" by Duke's success in basketball.
Won't carry over in baseball...doesn't matter who gets the job.
Simple as that.
Duke and basketball and ACC = top job.
Too many of you are being "blinded" by Duke's success in basketball.
Won't carry over in baseball...doesn't matter who gets the job.
Simple as that.
Geesh guys, never forget that nothing is impossible, some things are just unusual:
Red Sox finally win a World Series.
Virginia Tech beats Duke in basketball.
Angelouse ends up with a good ball club in Baltimore.
Some industrious energetic guy may come in to Duke and put it on the baseball map-beautiful campus, obviously great academics-very similar to Stanford in many ways.
Red Sox finally win a World Series.
Virginia Tech beats Duke in basketball.
Angelouse ends up with a good ball club in Baltimore.
Some industrious energetic guy may come in to Duke and put it on the baseball map-beautiful campus, obviously great academics-very similar to Stanford in many ways.
Duke won before Hillier was there.
It is one of the top academic colleges in the country and plays in the ACC one of the best conferences. There main competition is Stanford for recruits. A former Duke recruitor said they need a players that could get in Columbia but could play at Clemson,
Duke grads make $80,000 first year. Duke recruits nationally, they are private. Most students can't get into Duke. They get a large percentage of their students from the Northeast.
It is one of the top academic colleges in the country and plays in the ACC one of the best conferences. There main competition is Stanford for recruits. A former Duke recruitor said they need a players that could get in Columbia but could play at Clemson,
Duke grads make $80,000 first year. Duke recruits nationally, they are private. Most students can't get into Duke. They get a large percentage of their students from the Northeast.
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You know three of the coaches on the short list?
You know three of the coaches on the short list?
The problem with Duke is the cost. Kids (really parents) are looking at a partial scholarship, say 50%. Then, you still have to come up with $23,000. Nowadays with 11.7 scholarships offered, this is a real situation. I know you are going to bring up Miami, and truthfully, I don't know how they keep doing it.