Dynamic Baseball

They are good, not great. For college attendance it comes down to the organization you are with, the organization you are playing against...and of course what type of player your son is. 

IMO depending on what considerable expense is and how much desposible income you have there are probably more effective events out there. 

2019....sent you a PM on this

Attended a couple of their events last summer.  Well run for the most part.  Son (2018) played up on a 17U team.  Events seemed pretty well attended.  However, once the 17U teams left the field, and when followed by a 16U team, most of the college coaches left the scene.  Just the facts.  For that reason alone, if your son is not going to be playing 17U or 18U , Or is not a complete stud (so that coaches would stay for a 16U game) I would seriously think about not attending.  Especially so, if it is going to be tough on the budget.  

Personal experience is that there are not a lot of coaches attending that are on the lookout to discover a player.  If there are coaches that want to see your son play and they are from the area then they may attend to specifically see your son play .  In general I don't think there are a lot of coaches just trolling fields to discover players (It does happen sometimes but  generally for pitchers who can be isolated the event).  If your son is on a team that has a lot of recruits being observed then there are looks from coaches who may be attending to see other players. 

Personally I did not think the planners of the schedule had a clue on geography.  They routinely schedule teams to play on a high school field then schedule a second game an hour away on a different HS field.  In general the field scheduling simply did not make a lot of sense.  It was difficult to find a Hotel that was relatively close to all the fields that your team plays at.  I put 300 miles on a car in three days at a tournament, the scheduling made no sense!  Team played on a Friday at Elon, then two games on a Saturday at spread fields, then game on Sunday evening 100 miles from Elon.  Your team will generally play one game on a college field then the remaining three on HS fields.  Due to the  dispersion of fields it is simply a logistical challenge for coaches to see a lot of players.  While playing at the college field there is a decent chance that a coach from that school is attending if for no other reason than to enable access to the field.  They often have several college fields, so at say in Western Virginia you may play at JMU, Bridgewater, Eastern Menonite, etc... Maybe one or two fields just depending on how it works out.  At JMU you could play on the Varsity Field or the older field used by the club team.  

On the plus side I thought the umpires generally were well suited for the environment.  Very competent and congenial.  Games generally were started on time and little overall controversy.

Games can sometimes be a mismatch that makes for a worthless experience.  Our 17U team once played a 15U team in a showcase.  It was three inning no-hitter and very embarrassing to win.  Yes, the 17U team won.  At 16U and up teams with good pitching and defense can generally compete with any team, but even allowing a 15U team in a showcase was very questionable judgement.  Strangely, there were several 15U teams in the one showcase so they could have easily scheduled them at a more appropriate peer group.

If this is a high cost trip, with no guarantee of a specific coach seeing your son I would put the money towards a different venue.  Dynamic runs an early Summer workout/showcase often near Fredricksburg that is attended by around 60 colleges from Va, Carolinas, and PA.  The showcase is one day and cost around $100.  It does provide for a great deal of exposure at a very reasonable cost if the schools are a match for your son.  If there are schools attending that are of interest I suggest your son contact them so they know he has a interest.  Otherwise the coaches have to guess which of the 150 players may want to attend their school.  If necessary I'd recommend being bold enough to find the coaches from schools of interest and have the player introduce himself.  I assume coaches would at least like to know what players have an interest in their school if they too are interested.  This is a relationship which requires mutual interest from both parties. 

Thanks for the info, everyone. It is extremely helpful. My understanding is that this particular tournament (held at Duke in late June) will have top teams there (the Canes' top team, Team Phenom, CBA's top team) but it is very hard to get any information as to what colleges attend. As usual, this site has been a wealth of information.

I coach for the EvoCanes so I am biased but here is my assessment.  

College coaches do not sit on a field and hope to find a player.  They go where they KNOW players are.  The turnout of coaches is dependent upon a few factors: 1) the talent level on your team and 2) how well your coaches make college coaches aware of the talent on your team.  This is somewhat dicey.   If your coach oversells the talent, coaches tend not to believe him twice.  So, your coach needs to have credibility and relationships with college coaches as well as the desire/interest to contact the coaches to speak to them before the events.  Not all teams have that.  For one or all of those reasons, some teams may feel like the tournament doesn't meet their expectations.  

In my experience, my team gets 10+ college coaches at every game because we as coaches work very hard to get them there.  We put out our rotation in advance.  We speak with the colleges about our players.  

The tourney at Duke to which 2019Dad refers is an invite only event of top teams.  The turnout should be outstanding.  I would expect 10-20+ college coaches.

Redbird5 is 100% correct.

redbird5 posted:

I coach for the EvoCanes so I am biased but here is my assessment.  

College coaches do not sit on a field and hope to find a player.  They go where they KNOW players are.  The turnout of coaches is dependent upon a few factors: 1) the talent level on your team and 2) how well your coaches make college coaches aware of the talent on your team.  This is somewhat dicey.   If your coach oversells the talent, coaches tend not to believe him twice.  So, your coach needs to have credibility and relationships with college coaches as well as the desire/interest to contact the coaches to speak to them before the events.  Not all teams have that.  For one or all of those reasons, some teams may feel like the tournament doesn't meet their expectations.  

In my experience, my team gets 10+ college coaches at every game because we as coaches work very hard to get them there.  We put out our rotation in advance.  We speak with the colleges about our players.  

The tourney at Duke to which 2019Dad refers is an invite only event of top teams.  The turnout should be outstanding.  I would expect 10-20+ college coaches.

Redbird is correct about coaches and relationships....if the canes get 10 plus and you are not on that type of team - you can expect a whole lot less then that at a typical dynamic.

this one as an invitational may be the one off, that is for you to decide.

I have been to more than one Dynamic event and I would have to echo the statement made by Redbird. The team your son is playing for and the talent on the team your son is playing against drives the interest of the recruiters. Not all Dynamic events are exclusive and there can be some ugly games whne the field is more "random" occasionally.

Just another twist, it does not matter if there are 100 coaches if they are not the coaches of the schools where your son is interested in playing!  

Our experience with Dynamic events (playing on a highly recruited team) echoes the above, but keep in mind, the coaches there are mostly regional.  We did Dynamic events in VA, MD, NC and the list slightly varied -- when in MD we had schools like MD, UMBC, Catholic, GW, Georgetown and more who were for the most part not in NC or VA but also the same Liberty, Radford, VCU, VMI, Richmond, Va Tech, JMU and such were at most of the events, while in NC we had High Point, Wake, Elon and more who did not necessarily make it to MD.  My list is not complete, just trying to give you a sense of who was there the past few years.

The list of schools really depends on how interested the school is in a prospect.  National powerhouses like Vanderbilt, UNC, South Carolina, Coastal Carolina and UVA followed my team to every tourney regardless of its location to see some of our players. But, to think that South Carolina will randomly show up at your game is unrealistic.  The "big boys" will come if the talent is there.

Dynamic does a very good job of getting the player's name out to the coaches after the event.  I know of several hard throwers that I spoke to coaches about after they pitched against us.  Dynamic tweets pretty regularly and coaches follow them.

Thanks for all of the responses. They have been very helpful.

Let me just add that with a little digging I was able to find online the schedule for the same tournament held last year (held at UVa instead of Duke). There were nine teams and Dynamic worked the tournament schedule like this:

• First evening: two games at UVa
• Second day: six games at UVa, two on a high school field
• Third day: six games at UVa, two on a high school field
• Fourth day: semifinals and finals at UVa

So 17 games held on the college field, 4 on a local high school field. 

Again, thanks for all of the input. 

Redbird5 and Twoboys...thank you for your great replies!!!

2019Dad highlights the challenge:  time and money is limited.

For the vast majority of players, if you want to play in college, one key is to go where the schools on your vetted list will be.  Most players will not be "found" randomly.  IMHO, go to events where the player is fishing in the right pond and where they, and perhaps their travel team coach, have communicated in advance with college coaches.

There are a lot of other things the player needs to do, e.g., train, get good grades and test scores, communicate regularly with coaches and admissions reps of schools on his list, etc.  And when the player sets foot on the field ready to be seen, the player wants that to be in front of "his" schools.

Coming in late on this.

1) Dynamic is by far #1 for regional coverage. Not even close. 

2) All tourneys are a TOOL that play a role in your overall mix. This tool happens to be extremely good: if you are in contact with your targeted schools and advise your targeted programs that you'll be at Dynamic Tournament X, the RCs will know exactly what to expect, how they will be treated, the flow of the tourney, knowledge of the participating team coaches, etc.

Kudos to Dynamic. Great baseball field at Duke and good competition. Played first game this evening and my son got to pitch in front of a half-dozen colleges from Virginia and the Carolinas -- schools he wouldn't normally be in front of.

2019Dad posted:

Kudos to Dynamic. Great baseball field at Duke and good competition. Played first game this evening and my son got to pitch in front of a half-dozen colleges from Virginia and the Carolinas -- schools he wouldn't normally be in front of.

Good luck. My son played in loads of Dynamic tournaments in VA, MD, and NC. I did not see this thread originally. I also travelled about 150 miles at an NC tournament--and that did not include getting there and back. As others mentioned previously, most kids don't get discovered randomly. But then again, my son got some, almost random small D3 interest a few times at Dynamic tournaments. I'd say in the mid-Atlantic, they are quite good IF your son is interested in playing at a school in this region.

My son just learned he'll be playing at one in Maryland later this week -- he'll be playing up for 17U team in his org, so we'll see how many coaches are there. FWIW, they play at Coppin State, Johns Hopkins, Towson and U of Maryland fields.

Coaches do not just camp out at the fields. They likely will come if your coach contacts them to promote his players. 

Normally you can count on a coach for the school you are playing at if the competition is good and maybe a few others unless a stud is there or a player they want to see.  Getting the info to the coaches is vital.  Again you/your son have to sell yourself and have a coach who does the same. 

Good to see you are still on here Redbird.  My son and I were talking about you Sunday night.

Ten times better then Impact(Dirtbag).  Those are really poorly run.