Early Committments

TR, how often do you see the verbal not become an NLI signee.....just curious, I'm aware that it can and does happen but is there a %?

I do not know the percentages but I have seen it happen all too often---then add in the fact that many early committments are done without the player not seeing enough campuses and doing the proper homework and then he transfers out in 6 months

Yes, some kids have made, are making and will make bad decisions on their next school. Some 18 year olds make bad decisions. Many make solid decisions and some choose to let folks know. If that announcement bothered me I would probably very simply disregard it. Since you asked, I don't really care who announces what or when. If they want to let me know where they will be next year, then I'll say God Bless and Good Luck. I definately won't tell them to sit down and shut up. What a freakin' buzzkill!

dado4
The problem is that in many cases it is not the player himself making the announcement---it is somebody else basing it on hearsay

It's the internet. I agree it is not reliable in some cases. If a kid or a parent wants to announce a verbal, then so be it. I don't regard many other sources reliable. Summer teams posting verbals is common, which I have no problem with permission. We were asked if it was ok for the summer team to post the verbal.

Hey TRhit why are you so critical with people? There are many post and opinions that I or others may not agree with however i don't comment on them just to say something. Things need to be kept positive. Now just curious I posted on 3 location for updates on 08 signings and BANG here's your post. YOU SEE THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN WHAT OTHERS ARE DOING. Whether it be the colleges or the kids.

HEY RYNO

Not critical --just voicing my feelings---hate to see kids get egg on their faces because of posting based on hearsay nto to mention a coach at a school seeing something and he knows nothing about the committment

Why do you take it personal?---I made it a general statement


You ask me why I am critical--I ask you --why are you so sensitive?--I never mentioned you or your posts

What I am saying now I have said for years on here if you would take the time to read up on it

Then let others do the same. Not sensitive and I have read your posts I guess its just a coincidence that 3 post today from me were about 08 committments and then you question on another post why the interest. But if you say it's nothing I guess it isn't.

RYNO


trust me--- it has nothing to do with any posts you made


Hope to see you in Jupiter---would like to see your son play

Hey not a problem. Thank you

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Originally posted by TRhit:
I don't know about you but I find all the posting of early commitments as a bit frivolous--nothing is a done deal until the NLI is signed---right now the coach cannot even talk about the prospect---right now most of it is hearsay


I much prefer to see the list when the NLI is signed

First, I agree that you should be careful not to post on speculation about a player committing, and yes things can change on a verbal commitment but I would have to imagine that the percentages of that happening are so small that in my humble opinion it is worth the risk. However not for nothing TR, I don’t get your “frivolous” comment.

Committing to a college is one of biggest things that will ever happen to most of us on this website.
The HSBBW is primarily about helping players and parents find their way. I would hope that no one ever feels like it is inappropriate to celebrate this type of occasion. In many cases the people on this website have become some of our closest advisors and I would like to think it would be appropriate to share the good news with the people that have been a big part of the journey.

And yes, come November when the NLI’s are signed I will probably be “frivolous” and celebrate again!

Perhaps I was brought up incorrectly but I do not think so---I was taught to never announce "deals" unless the papers were signed ,sealed and delivered.

30 years in the construction business in NYC taught me that.Owners/developers can change their minds on a whim. Unless it is a done deal I don't talk about it--never ever--

Like I say it is not the kid/parents who have the committment; it is the hearsay, the parent of another team mate, a team mate who announces what you are doing and they are not always correct--The websites that list the committments do not do so until the NLI is signed and it is official---why do you think college coaches cannot talk about committments of prospects until the NLI is signed.

Celebrate---I come from a belief that you do not put baby furniture in the babies room until the baby is born and declared healthy in the hospital---perhaps an old and antiquated belief but I like it

Perhaps now you understand where I come from

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The websites that list the committments do not do so until the NLI is signed and it is official.

I'm confused. PGCrosschecker.com has 3 pages of names of commitments.

http://www.pgcrosschecker.com/hsprospects/2008/college_...lass.aspx?gyear=2008

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why do you think college coaches cannot talk about committments of prospects until the NLI is signed.

NCAA Rule prohibiting comment, like everything else they do or say? Just a guess.

This is the first time they have done this, at least to my knowledge

Parents should feel free to post if they are comfortable, that is their priority, however, I don't like when someone else (anyone) posts such news about another player until a letter is signed. JMO.

That's why schools don't announce it until it is official and that's why the NCAA has rules.

And yes, there are many instances where commitments don't sign.

TR,
There are many parents I have heard from who are waiting for their sons to sign before it is announced. You and I are considered old school, we don't bring baby furniture or things into the home until the baby is born either. There are many parents who feel the same way.

Best of luck to all!

Perfect game has had these early signing and NLI listings for a few years.

At this point, since they are just verbals and I am sure some get voided, but not many. I don't think the schools submit these vs the players.

What one has to understand is that none of this is official until the November early signing period and the NLI is signed


Home run

PG can correct me but I do believe that in previous years no committments were posted until the schools certified them

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Originally posted by TRhit:
Celebrate---I come from a belief that you do not put baby furniture in the babies room until the baby is born and declared healthy in the hospital---perhaps an old and antiquated belief but I like it

I guess we are just different... not right or wrong, just different.

By the way I am guilty as well of telling people when we we found out we were going to have a baby. I may be "new" school but I just didn't think it made a lot of sense to wait until after the baby was born.

TR- you are absolutely correct, nothing is official until the paperwork (NLI) is done (hopefully they get something un-official in writing such as an email), but most college coaches from other schools will respect the verbal arrangements and stop the recruiting process.

I advise the players I interact with is once they make a verbal arrangement to a school, let the other schools that they have offers from know out of respect.

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Originally posted by jerseydad:

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Originally posted by TRhit:
Celebrate---I come from a belief that you do not put baby furniture in the babies room until the baby is born and declared healthy in the hospital---perhaps an old and antiquated belief but I like it

By the way I am guilty as well of telling people when we we found out we were going to have a baby. I may be "new" school but I just didn't think it made a lot of sense to wait until after the baby was born.

I don't think he meant NOT TELLING people about the baby. We here do the same thing, no baby stuff in the house until after the baby. Superstitious traditions.

But we haven't had a baby in a while so...things may have changed.

Oh I thought you were getting ready to announce a new little Tiger on the way.

Dad04 thats funnnnny and that is how we can end this post. WOW I'm still laughing.... perfect

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Originally posted by Dad04:
Oh I thought you were getting ready to announce a new little Tiger on the way.

Nest is empty, but have a
baby redbird.

BTW, how are ya? I sent you an email while back.

Lets see new crib, rocking chair, teddy bears, changing table. I guess I'm not as old as I thought I was. Boy I feel pretty good. Oh here's some 08's for the new school peoplehttp://www.pgcrosschecker.com/hsprospects/2008/college_...lass.aspx?gyear=2008

A committment is kind of like a wedding engagement. You make your intentions public (engagement announcement in the paper), even though you have not said "I do." And yes, some change their minds.

Good news should be shared.

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Originally posted by TRhit:
What one has to understand is that none of this is official until the November early signing period and the NLI is signed

I'm simply using TR's post to raise a question, not questioning him per se but.... haven't there been cases recently where kids who have signed the NLI, have since been told the school was withdrawing their offer?

I LOVE hearing good news -- about verbal commitments, engagements, etc. -- even if things do occasionally change later.