earned run?

There is not enough information in your post to determine how many runs would be earned.

From your post Im assuming that what your asking is because of the OF error are all the runs scored after that unearned? To determine that we would need to recreate the inning by knowing all the details on the starting pitcher, what happened to the runner(s) after that and when was the book closed on him before identifiying the earned runs for the reliever.

If the catch would have ended the inning and it was offically recorded as an error, any runs scored afterwards will be unearned and will will not impact the starting pitcher's ERA. However, a relief pitcher can be held accountable for runs if he is solely responsible for those runs no matter what happened prior to his entry into the game.
The rules state:

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When pitchers are changed during an inning, the relief pitcher shall not have the benefit of previous chances for outs not accepted in determining earned runs. NOTE: It is the intent of this rule to charge relief pitchers with earned runs for which they are solely responsible. In some instances, runs charged as earned against the relief pitcher can be charged as unearned against the team.

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Hope this helps,
Fungo

Thank you for the reply. The scenario Fungo described is what happened.

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Originally posted by fungo:
If the catch would have ended the inning and it was offically recorded as an error, any runs scored afterwards will be unearned and will will not impact the starting pitcher's ERA. However, a relief pitcher can be held accountable for runs if he is solely responsible for those runs no matter what happened prior to his entry into the game.
The rules state:

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When pitchers are changed during an inning, the relief pitcher shall not have the benefit of previous chances for outs not accepted in determining earned runs. NOTE: It is the intent of this rule to charge relief pitchers with earned runs for which they are solely responsible. In some instances, runs charged as earned against the relief pitcher can be charged as unearned against the team.

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Hope this helps,
Fungo

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Where did you get this "quote" regarding earned runs? It's not a FED rule. And it's not an OBR rule either.

If an error prolongs an inning, no runs scored after the error are earned.

Bluezebra,
Upon reading your investigative post I was sure your keen scrutiny had indeed found a weakness in my ability to retain portions of the very complicated rules of baseball. Yes, I must admit I was recalling this ruling using nothing but my fading memory and I also will be the first to admit that I do make mistakes at time. But. . . . . After further review I find that paragraph 18 of the MLB official rules, 10.00, the official scorer section, does indeed contain the aforementioned information in item (i). Conformation can be made by using the following link to 10.18.
Offical MLB Rules
Fungo

Here is an good example in the MLB rules that fits letsplat2's situation. This is also contained in 10.18 of the MLB rules.

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EXAMPLES: (1) With two out, P1 walks A. B reaches base on an error. P2 relieves P1. C hits home run, scoring three runs. Charge two unearned runs to P1, one earned run to P2

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In this case the error allowing "B" to reach base with two outs prolongs the inning and most assume that all runs scored after the error would be unearned. (they are from a team's perspective) But since P2 (the relief pitcher) cannot benefit from a previous situation in which he had no part, he will be charged with an earned run as common sense dictates he should.

Just when I thought I knew it all...guess I'd better go back and review my stats for the last five years or so!!!

I should have read further down in OBR. However, there's no such exception in FED, or in the CASE BOOK.