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Scenario:

Bottom of extra inning in tie game

P1: out on fly ball to LF (1st out)

P2: gets on with clean single to RF

P2: steals 2nd base

P2: moves to 3rd base on Catcher error on throwing ball back to pitcher (next pitch)

P3: hits fly ball to CF (sac fly)

P2: scores on sac fly from P3 ---game over

 

The rules state that a scorer should reconstruct an inning without the errors to determine earned runs.  In the above case, you can't construct the full inning because only one (1) out was recorded. P2 got to 2nd without an error.  The sac-fly would have otherwise (a) moved him to 3rd, or he stays at 2nd.  In either case, there would be two (2) outs.  Even if you assume he moves to 3rd on the sac, you can't assume that he would score/not score afterwards, hence the question.

 

Thanks

 

 

 

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In the future, ask a scoring or stat question in the Statistics and Scorekeeping forum. Umpires haven’t got a thing to do with scoring a game other than declaring whether or not a run counts.

 

As to your question, where in the rules does it say a complete inning must be reconstructed. What it says is, An earned run is a run for which a pitcher is held accountable. It doesn’t say anything about whether its in a full or partial inning.

 

When you reconstruct an inning you do it one run at a time, and in this case the rules tell you all you need to know. In determining earned runs, the official scorer shall reconstruct the inning without the errors (which exclude catcher’s interference) and passed balls, giving the benefit of the doubt always to the pitcher in determining which bases would have been reached by runners had there been errorless play.

 

Assuming the runner would have only moved to 3rd on what ended up being a sac fly and the 2nd out, all the scorer does is gives the benefit of the doubt to the pitcher because that’s all he’s got to work with.

 

UER.

Didn’t say they don’t know much about the scoring rules. I was trying to get across that the question would be better served in the Stats and Scoring forum, not because no umpires know anything about scoring, but rather that its not their job.

 

However, I will say that as a group umpires generally know more about the scoring rules than the coaches, the players, and for sure more than fans in general.

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