Earned run or not to earn run

Obrady,
I agree with you --- I can't see an earned run.
Fungo

I would call it earned because you cannot assume the out at third in the original play.

Scorer's judgement. If the SK judged that the out would have been made at third, then unearned.

jemaz, If you can't assume the out then why did the scorekeeper give the shortstop the error (E-6)????

The run is not earned because the shortstop was going to make the play at 3rd. If the error would not have been made then the lead runner would have been erased, not the guy who hit the ball.

Fungo: I'm guessing because the runner advanced. However, the runner might not have been safe in any number of ways even with a throw, and, with that reasoning, I would agree that it is not necessarily an error. But even if it is, as I said, there are any number of ways the runner could have been safe even with a throw, and that includes turning and going back to second. In this case, the runner was not forced to advance.

Jemaz,
Making me pull out the rule book!
If we analyze the first post by obrady, the first thing we have to consider is the error on the shortstop. He said it was an error so we have to assume that is what the official scorekeeper ruled. If an error is charged then we have to assume the out at third base would have been made and enter FC (fielder’s choice) to the batter with E6 on the runner's advance to third. If that be the case, then the runner that advanced to third base as a result of the error can never be earned.
From the rule book:
ERRORS:
(d) (1) An error shall be charged against any fielder whose wild throw permits a runner to reach a base safely, when in the scorer’s judgment a good throw would have put out the runner
EARNED RUNS:
(d) No run shall be earned when the runner’s advance is aided by an error, a passed ball, or defensive interference or obstruction, if the scorer judges that the run would not have scored without the aid of such misplay.

Fungo:

It's hard to disagree with anything in your post. Two points:

1. The runner at second did not have to advance, but if he did and the shortstop dropped the ball, then I fully agree with your post.

2. Your post was a revalation to me in the most fundamental of ways. Perhaps it is my eyesight or my reading comprehension, but when I initially read the post by O'Brady, I read a ball hit to short right (field) rather than to the right of the shortstop (which on second look clearly is the case).

Oops.

jemaz,
I read it the first time the same way as you --- "short right" instead of "short's right" --- and my first response was that it had to be an earned run because a baserunner could advance from second to third on a ball hit to right field no matter what the right fielder did. But the error made me re-read obrady's post and only then did I realize it was the shortstop and not the right fielder and that changes the whole picture and made me change my first response from earned to unearned.
Fungo