The more I search the hsbaseballweb forums about this, the more I confuse myself. Bat speed, ball speed, off the tee, off pitcher... So here is what I am specifically wondering about: the statistic which Headfirst measures -- exit velocity off the tee. That is the speed of the ball coming off the bat, correct? And what is a "good" number for this among high school aged players? The spectrum of what a D3 vs D1 type player might get?
Thanks for any input or clarification.
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From what I've seen, 85+ is good, while 90+ is excellent and 100+ exceptional.
I agree with Root. Poke around on PrepBaseballReport.com looking for Event Results (from showcases) and you should find lots of examples. When my son went a few years ago they had the gun behind him (where catcher would be) as he hit the ball off of the tee.
This is one measurement I am not sure there is a whole ton of difference D3 to D1. While yes there are outliers. Some kid with a 110 is probably not D3 and there might be a slick fielder somewhere in D3 sitting at 72. But generally I think you need to be in that 85 - 100 range. The difference then comes down to how often do you square it up? That is what will determine D3 - D1
Be aware that wood vs metal speeds will vary.
Throw 90+, Hit 90+, better chance of getting 90+ % of a Scholarship
100/100/100% is obvious
The lower you get into 80's, the lower the prospect is, usually, unless there are other outliers (running a 6.5 60 helps!)
3and2Fastball posted:Throw 90+, Hit 90+, better chance of getting 90+ % of a Scholarship
100/100/100% is obvious
The lower you get into 80's, the lower the prospect is, usually, unless there are other outliers (running a 6.5 60 helps!)
I would submit though it is a whole lot easier to get an exit velo of 90 than 90 off the mound. And 90 off the mound virtually guarantees you a spot. They will work with you if your control is off or your off speed is bad. A 90mph exit velo is kind of no big deal if you can't square up.
Was searching on exit velocity and this very good post came up. Wondering if there are any updated opinions on exit velocity in college recruiting - my 2020 grad is around 90 exit velo and can definitely square up a fastball. Ability to hit a mix of pitches still very untested at young ago
3and2Fastball posted:Throw 90+, Hit 90+, better chance of getting 90+ % of a Scholarship
100/100/100% is obvious
The lower you get into 80's, the lower the prospect is, usually, unless there are other outliers (running a 6.5 60 helps!)
I found this posit entertaining and I wish your calculus were true 3and2. I would have had lower tuition payments this year! I honestly do not think you can correlate velo, batspeed, or foot speed to scholarship amounts or your chances of garnering those amounts. But I do think you are correct that those figures definitely correlate to playing ball at a high level in college, all other things being equal.
tres_arboles posted:3and2Fastball posted:Throw 90+, Hit 90+, better chance of getting 90+ % of a Scholarship
100/100/100% is obvious
The lower you get into 80's, the lower the prospect is, usually, unless there are other outliers (running a 6.5 60 helps!)
I found this posit entertaining and I wish your calculus were true 3and2. I would have had lower tuition payments this year! I honestly do not think you can correlate velo, batspeed, or foot speed to scholarship amounts or your chances of garnering those amounts. But I do think you are correct that those figures definitely correlate to playing ball at a high level in college, all other things being equal.
yes, that was thrown out there a little too haphazardly however the emphasis was intended to be on the word "better". Better chance.
Probably should have been more like: 100mph exit velo/90+ throwing
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