My starting catcher is also the starting QB and he is a big Tebow fan. With that said he has been pushing me to allow him to write on his eye black. What do other coach's think?
Original Post
Replies sorted oldest to newest
I'll bet the association bans it for 2010 season... just a hunch I have since the Tebow stuff.
As for my team... the only thing I could imagine I would allow is "Trojans" since that is our team name. Haven't had it come up yet, but I 'spose it will.
As for my team... the only thing I could imagine I would allow is "Trojans" since that is our team name. Haven't had it come up yet, but I 'spose it will.
Writing personal messages on eye black differentiates a player from his teammates. When you tell him no, suggest he look up the definition of "uniform." My son's high school coach makes all the players where their pants the same way.
Of course if we went back to the old school eye black that came out of a tube then you would not be able to write anything on it.
quote:Of course if we went back to the old school eye black that came out of a tube then you would not be able to write anything on it.
No, but then we'd all have a bunch of "warriors" on the field ready with their "battle paint"
quote:When you tell him no, suggest he look up the definition of "uniform." My son's high school coach makes all the players where their pants the same way.
If you take the uniform approach argument with him, you better make sure you make every kid wear the same shoes too. If you let them wear different shoes, why not different eye black. Why let some wear wrist bands, others not. Why let some wear sleeves, other not. Why let some wear pants down, others pants up. I don't think you can win with that approach.
I don't have a problem with it. If you do, I would suggest telling them old school eye black only...and suggest a nice shade of red lipstick to go with it. They'll get the message.
Last year the players were told the cleats had to be black with white trim allowed. This year the team chose cleats. Everything that comes out of the locker room is uniform. They have the same equipment bags and warmup jersies. They are only allowed one specific color exposed from under the uniform (sleeves, neck). Wrist bands must be the same color.quote:Originally posted by Tx-Husker:quote:When you tell him no, suggest he look up the definition of "uniform." My son's high school coach makes all the players where their pants the same way.
If you take the uniform approach argument with him, you better make sure you make every kid wear the same shoes too. If you let them wear different shoes, why not different eye black. Why let some wear wrist bands, others not. Why let some wear sleeves, other not. Why let some wear pants down, others pants up. I don't think you can win with that approach.
I don't have a problem with it. If you do, I would suggest telling them old school eye black only...and suggest a nice shade of red lipstick to go with it. They'll get the message.
They have practice uniforms. The only difference is if half the team is told to wear white tops and half blue for a scrimmage.
RJM, with that degree of uniformity, you could get away with the uniform approach. Most of the teams I see at the HS level around north Texas don't have that consistency so the uniform argument would not work.
The uniformity is one of the ways the new coach brought discipline into a program that's was an undisciplined loser for twenty years under the last coach.
Uniformity is a part of teaching the team concept. I think it is essential in building a winning program. It sounds like you guys have a good coach. Good luck this season.
quote:Uniformity is a part of teaching the team concept.
I would say uniformity is one way to teach the team concept. I've seen clubs that would be webster's definition of team have different shoes, some pants up and some down, etc. That's probably a harder path, but if you get it that way you know it's real.
No need to write on the eye black. If it's uniformity you want you can custom order at www.eyeblack.com.
I ask this question for my education purposes. i am not arguing against anything anyone does. I am trying to determine what my philosphy will be regarding the uniform topic in general. I am educating myself. I am an asst varsity coach. I hope to move on in the next year or too. I am 25. Does a "uniform program" help win? What are your expierences with it? Does it sometimes turn kids off. Or does it ensure discipline? Any help greatly appreciated thanks
Pastime,
I think it can be taken too far. I've always been a fan of clean cut hair, no sideburns below the ear lobe, no other facial hair. I personally have no problems with rules designed to keep your team from looking like bums (and judging by the way a lot of teenagers dress, if left to do whatever they want, they will end up looking like bums).
However, I think it can be taken too far. This is just my personal opinion. For example, everyone has to wear their socks up or everyone has to wear their socks down. I personally am not a fan of this rule. I think there is some room for individual preference without hurting the overall appearance of the team.
For example, at my high school, we had the aforementioned facial hair rule, but we could wear our socks however we wanted. We played hard, we competed, and we were (for the most part) solid citizens. No one would have accused us of being a group of "I" players. No one cared that I wore my pants long and the next guy wore their pants high (although at the time, wearing your pants long meant to the top of your spikes, not covering your spikes or tucked under your spikes or whatever).
To make a long story short, I think it can be taken too far.
By the way, since the original topic was eye black, I'll just say this....I think anything other than the basic line under each looks ridiculous.
I think it can be taken too far. I've always been a fan of clean cut hair, no sideburns below the ear lobe, no other facial hair. I personally have no problems with rules designed to keep your team from looking like bums (and judging by the way a lot of teenagers dress, if left to do whatever they want, they will end up looking like bums).
However, I think it can be taken too far. This is just my personal opinion. For example, everyone has to wear their socks up or everyone has to wear their socks down. I personally am not a fan of this rule. I think there is some room for individual preference without hurting the overall appearance of the team.
For example, at my high school, we had the aforementioned facial hair rule, but we could wear our socks however we wanted. We played hard, we competed, and we were (for the most part) solid citizens. No one would have accused us of being a group of "I" players. No one cared that I wore my pants long and the next guy wore their pants high (although at the time, wearing your pants long meant to the top of your spikes, not covering your spikes or tucked under your spikes or whatever).
To make a long story short, I think it can be taken too far.
By the way, since the original topic was eye black, I'll just say this....I think anything other than the basic line under each looks ridiculous.
Slightly off topic - but I am not a big fan of the uniform shoes. Two reasons:
Some brands (e.g. Mizuno) come in a wider style - and others (e.g. Nike) are narrower. Not everyone can find a pair that comfortably fit their foot if you chose one or the other.
Kids already have shoes that work. Buying yet another pair of shoes can be a financial burden.
I'm fine with - shoes must be black with white trim or similar rules - but insisting on a common brand and model doesn't seem like a good idea to me.
Some brands (e.g. Mizuno) come in a wider style - and others (e.g. Nike) are narrower. Not everyone can find a pair that comfortably fit their foot if you chose one or the other.
Kids already have shoes that work. Buying yet another pair of shoes can be a financial burden.
I'm fine with - shoes must be black with white trim or similar rules - but insisting on a common brand and model doesn't seem like a good idea to me.
08Dad, I completely agree. A certain shoe might not fit a specific player right and if he is required to wear it, then he is susceptible to injury.
