Guys, this came up during a 14u tournament this weekend. Pitcher fakes to 3rd and throws to 1st. Home plate ump calls a balk. Both he and the 3rd base coach (from opponent) say it's an illegal move that was changed this year. I agree, it was made illegal at the MLB level. Their initial argument was that it's also illegal in college and HS, which I disagreed with. When home plate ump heard me say that, he said we're playing by MLB rules. Fine, whatever... almost got tossed for pointing out his mistake. But more importantly at this point... I am correct, aren't I?
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Guys, this came up during a 14u tournament this weekend. Pitcher fakes to 3rd and throws to 1st. Home plate ump calls a balk. Both he and the 3rd base coach (from opponent) say it's an illegal move that was changed this year. I agree, it was made illegal at the MLB level. Their initial argument was that it's also illegal in college and HS, which I disagreed with. When home plate ump heard me say that, he said we're playing by MLB rules. Fine, whatever... almost got tossed for pointing out his mistake. But more importantly at this point... I am correct, aren't I?
The move is still legal in NCAA and FED. I don't know which rules applied for your 14u tournament.
The move is still legal in NCAA and FED. I don't know which rules applied for your 14u tournament.
That is a great question. I asked prior to the tourny, but was never given an answer. Ultimately the home plate ump fell on the "we're playing by MLB rules", which I had never seen in a 14u tournament. Especially one that allows EH's.
Most independent tournaments play under OBR with certain additions for safety or increased participation.
You have to ask because it does matter. It is illegal in Pony,MLB and USSSA. It is legal in LL,Fed and NCAA. Others, who knows
Triple Crown says the fake to 3rd is a balk.
You have to ask because it does matter. It is illegal in Pony,MLB and USSSA. It is legal in LL,Fed and NCAA. Others, who knows
I think that makes LL the only OBR based rule code that doesn't consider it a balk. Figures.
According to our local interpreter, Babe Ruth is deferring on adding the rule until 2014 - that is in BR/CR it's legal as well
According to our local interpreter, Babe Ruth is deferring on adding the rule until 2014 - that is in BR/CR it's legal as well
Babe Ruth here is using OBR including the balk rules that includes feinting to third from the rubber.