Open to listen to any and all comments about this. Son will be in Jupiter later this month and will throw. Heard there is scout interest and expectations are a better breaking ball. Everyone i know who sees him throw loves his CB. Hard biting, 77-83 that looks like FB out of the hand. I think his CU is the pitch the really define and improve (just a dad here), what are your thoughts?
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Open to listen to any and all comments about this. Son will be in Jupiter later this month and will throw. Heard there is scout interest and expectations are a better breaking ball. Everyone i know who sees him throw loves his CB. Hard biting, 77-83 that looks like FB out of the hand. I think his CU is the pitch the really define and improve (just a dad here), what are your thoughts?
My thought, is, that you left out info on his FB which is THE most important pitch. Every pitch should look the same. I just dont get your point, what does "Fastball gets you drafted, curveball gets you paid" mean.
For most pro pitchers if the fastball doesn't hit a certain velocity they won't get paid for their curve. If a pitcher can't put a fastball by a hitter they will sit on his curve. There aren't many Tommy Johns and Jamie Moyers in baseball. It took until they were old and very experienced to get by on slop. Before anyone brings up Maddux he threw in the 90s in his 20s.
FB 90-92 touches 93-95
CB 78-83
The phrase was mentioned to me and i assume it is about the FB velo getting the initial attention and i suspect the curveball being a differentiator? I hear a slider is necesssary in the arsenal as well for D1.
Shoveit,
If those numbers are correct you don't need a slider at this point. The breaking ball and change separate those with above average fastballs. Touching 95 with a plus curve ball will get someone drafted very early. Every college in the country should want him.
Best of luck in Jupiter.
FB 90-92 touches 93-95
CB 78-83
The phrase was mentioned to me and i assume it is about the FB velo getting the initial attention and i suspect the curveball being a differentiator? I hear a slider is necesssary in the arsenal as well for D1.
Sounds to me like he's got some serious stuff, and he is going to need it whether playing in the ACC (or pro ball). His college pitching coach will work with him every day, and he may make suggestions on a new pitch or improving on an existing pitch. I'd defer to him.
With those velocities it comes down to command and control relative to the other pitcher phenoms (with same velocities) that were recruited for the team. Velocity differentiated him from others in high school. He's stepping into one of the most competitive college baseball conferences, and he'll need to separate himself in other ways to win the coaches favor. JMO
FB 90-92 touches 93-95
CB 78-83
The phrase was mentioned to me and i assume it is about the FB velo getting the initial attention and i suspect the curveball being a differentiator? I hear a slider is necesssary in the arsenal as well for D1.
Sounds to me like he's got some serious stuff, and he is going to need it whether playing in the ACC (or pro ball). His college pitching coach will work with him every day, and he may make suggestions on a new pitch or improving on an existing pitch. I'd defer to him.
With those velocities it comes down to command and control relative to the other pitcher phenoms (with same velocities) that were recruited for the team. Velocity differentiated him from others in high school. He's stepping into one of the most competitive college baseball conferences, and he'll need to separate himself in other ways to win the coaches favor. JMO
Absolutely Fenway, as the HC said last weekend, you haven't arrived.. the competition is just starting when you arrive on campus.
Thanks for the feedback, he will need every advantage in the ACC and opening up his game up for suggestions and listening to his PC there will be huge. I've already started that process of laying the foundation for that to happen. Maybe i'll suggest he wear some negligee under his pants like Nuke LaLoosh!
I am pretty sure that I know where your son is headed.
I am also sure that your son is getting scout attention due to his stuff.
Its exciting. So is ACC college baseball.
IMO, your sons best option most likely would be to head to that ACC school.
That head coach's words were right on!
If you have any questions, send pm.
BTW if your son has a very good CB, he wont need a slider most likely. The pc will figure out what is best for your son and most likely the pitch to work on will be the CU. He really doesnt need at this point two breaking balls.
FB 90-92 touches 93-95
CB 78-83
The phrase was mentioned to me and i assume it is about the FB velo getting the initial attention and i suspect the curveball being a differentiator? I hear a slider is necesssary in the arsenal as well for D1.
Sounds to me like he's got some serious stuff, and he is going to need it whether playing in the ACC (or pro ball). His college pitching coach will work with him every day, and he may make suggestions on a new pitch or improving on an existing pitch. I'd defer to him.
With those velocities it comes down to command and control relative to the other pitcher phenoms (with same velocities) that were recruited for the team. Velocity differentiated him from others in high school. He's stepping into one of the most competitive college baseball conferences, and he'll need to separate himself in other ways to win the coaches favor. JMO
Absolutely Fenway, as the HC said last weekend, you haven't arrived.. the competition is just starting when you arrive on campus.
Thanks for the feedback, he will need every advantage in the ACC and opening up his game up for suggestions and listening to his PC there will be huge. I've already started that process of laying the foundation for that to happen. Maybe i'll suggest he wear some negligee under his pants like Nuke LaLoosh!
Players get to campus and find out everyone else on the team was all world in high school. Baseball becomes about much more than physical talent. It becomes about head, heart and guts. Everyone on the team has the physical talent. Some don't have the intangibles. It's where the difference is made.
Great point RJM. It will be exciting and probably a bit stressful ( for mom and I) to watch how this plays out. The real world....we've been talking about that destination for quite a while with him.
I've seen kids get to college ball and decide they don't want to commit that much time. The time commitment is way beyond anything they've ever experienced before. It's important to not get completely caught up in the sports, get to class and get the studying done.
I know a kid who was doing great in baseball. He started on a ranked team as a freshman. He was on his way to being drafted. Then a huge red flag and barrier came up. He overlooked going to class soph year. He was majoring in baseball with a minor in partying.
Maybe someone should have seen the red flag it took until summer after senior year of high school for the kid to become NCAA eligible with his SAT scores. Without baseball he wouldn't have qualified to mow the baseball field where he went.
That's the whole, growing up part, right? College athletics are where you form lifelong friendships, forge your early adulthood thoughts and have a chance to be in one of, if not THE best fraternaties on the planet. Its a shame the kid lost perspective, i hear stories all the time about kids who get to school and fade away. i tell my son he will be fighting for his "pitching life" when he gets there.....and academics are a non-negotiable component in his routine.
Shoveit,
If those numbers are correct you don't need a slider at this point. The breaking ball and change separate those with above average fastballs. Touching 95 with a plus curve ball will get someone drafted very early. Every college in the country should want him.
Best of luck in Jupiter.
PG,
I believe those numbers. You guys have him in your system at 93 at three different events.
