Florida vs Oklahoma

Boise State got screwed

I am just glad that in Baseball and Basketball they have a playoff system. In football you have computers and polls. Style points and campaigns.

The way it ought to be.

Florida vs USC
Texas vs OU

The two winners play for the NC.

And I think USC and Texas would win.

Texas got screwed but they got the right two teams to play for the championship. Although, Texas versus either one of them or Alabama or USC or Penn State would be the right choice for a championship game.

I guess they figure after they get the championship game settled then it doesn't matter who matches up with who.

The thing I don't understand is the NCAA holds a tournament for baseball, softball, basketball, women's basketball, volleyball, hockey, tennis, golf, wrestling etc... for a championship. THEN they hand out an NCAA trophey to the winner of said tournament.

Now with football the NCAA has no hands on determination to who the champion will be. Then when they create a game of the "two" best teams there is a different trophy handed out other than an NCAA trophy.

There are conference contractual arrangements that dictate where teams go if they are not in the championship game. Big 10/Pac 10 go to Rose Bowl if not in the championship. Big 12 to Fiesta, SEC to Sugar, ACC/Big East to Orange. Agree it yields unsatisfactory results...but, face it. The university presidents don't care what the ticket buying public thinks or we would have the playoff we all want.

It's all about the money and not the Match-up's.

I just think an Alabama vs Texas would be a good Bowl game.
USC against Texas Tech.
Put Utah or Boise St. in there against Penn St. and Ohio St.

Shake it up a little, It would make it more interesting.
EH

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Originally posted by theEH:
It's all about the money and not the Match-up's.

I just think an Alabama vs Texas would be a good Bowl game.
USC against Texas Tech.
Put Utah or Boise St. in there against Penn St. and Ohio St.

Shake it up a little, It would make it more interesting.
EH

Those are perfect match ups. They ought to put you in charge.

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It's all about the money and not the Match-up's.

I disagree that it's ALL about the money. But the proper match ups create the most interest therefore creating the most revenue.

EH - I'm a bama fan and was REALLY wanting to see them play Texas. Think it would have been a great match up!!!

This was a down year for the Big 10 and Ohio State does not belong in a BCS bowl. Boise State shoud have gotten that spot.

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Originally posted by Holden Caulfield:
This was a down year for the Big 10 and Ohio State does not belong in a BCS bowl. Boise State shoud have gotten that spot.

I am a huge Big 10 fan and still

Ok here is a scenario for ya - let's say a major conference is really down for several years and a mid major really becomes strong. Would they drop the big time conference in favor of the mid-major?

I agree that the Big 10 is down but people have said that about the Big East and several years ago the ACC was down. What if one or all of these conferences just goes down the toilet for several years - like their highest ranked team is around 20 or so? But there is a mid major like Conference USA, the MAC or WAC who gets really strong - does that mean a Utah, Buffalo or Boise State actually gets a chance at a national championship?

Coach, I think automatic bids should be dropped. They really need to rethink the whole enchilada and get a playoff in place for 2010. The only way a mid major will ever get a National Championship is by beating the best on the field. I'm not saying that will ever happen, but that's the only possibility I see.

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Originally posted by coach2709:
Ok here is a scenario for ya - let's say a major conference is really down for several years and a mid major really becomes strong. Would they drop the big time conference in favor of the mid-major?

I agree that the Big 10 is down but people have said that about the Big East and several years ago the ACC was down. What if one or all of these conferences just goes down the toilet for several years - like their highest ranked team is around 20 or so? But there is a mid major like Conference USA, the MAC or WAC who gets really strong - does that mean a Utah, Buffalo or Boise State actually gets a chance at a national championship?

When it comes to football, when were the Big East and the ACC ever really UP???

Spizzle I agree completely but I just doubt it will happen with ESPN paying the equivelant of the GNP of three small African nations to televise the BCS games. Which does create a nice catch 22. ESPN is supposed to report what happens in sport. Now they get to determine who they report in the BCS games.

Holden I don't have any concrete info in front of me, nor can I pull anything real accurate off top of my head, but the Big East has actually been pretty good in the last 3 to 4 years. They were like 5 - 0 in bowl games last year and that includes WVU beating Oklahoma. Two years ago (or three) WVU beat Georgia in the Sugar bowl.

The Big East gets a perception of being weak because three pretty good teams (Miami, Boston College & VA Tech) left. The Big East rebounded nicely by picking an up and coming UConn, South Florida and at the time Louisville (not so much anymore). But this shows how weak the ACC is / was too. When was the last time an ACC school that was there before those three joined won the conference? I don't really know but since those three former Big East teams arrived they have controlled the conference.

Overall in the past 5 years here is how I would rank the conferences

1. SEC
2. PAC 10
3. BIG 12
4. BIG 10 & BIG EAST - I can't back it up now but I don't see a huge difference in these two for the past 5 years
5. ACC

I am a huge ACC fan but its down. But we did go 6-4 against the SEC. Outside of PSU and Ohio State who is very good in the Big Ten? Outside of Bama and Florida who is very good this year in the SEC? Outside of USC and maybe OSU who is very good in the Pac 10? The Big 12 has Texas OU TT. But outside of Mizzou which really looked bad down the stretch not too much else. And the Big East has Cincy as their conf champ.

How can they use USC's schedule against a weak conference against them when these other conferences are just as weak? The ACC has a bunch of teams that are all average. USC and Texas are the teams that got screwed. Texas beat OU. They beat them on a neutral field. USC lost early on the road against a good team. They hammered everyone else on their schedule. Florida lost to Ole Miss and then hammered everyone else on their schedule. So why does Florida play for the NC and USC never gets into the mix?

The whole BCS is BS. The only way they will ever have a true champion is when they start having a playoff like every other division of college football does except D1.

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When it comes to football, when were the Big East and the ACC ever really UP???

Good Question. Not sure about the Big East but just a few short years ago the ACC was arguably the top conference in the country with Miami, Florida State, and Va Tech to a lesser extent contending for the national title each year. Obviously, they have fallen on some hard times. USC is riding high right now but where were they before Pete Carroll arrived? Now Michigan has fallen off the table. People like to take their shots at Ohio State but they are annually one of the top programs. There is a Buffalo Bills aspect to them but they won a title just a few short years ago. Ohio State produces more pro players than almost every other program out there.

Whatever happened to Nebraska?

Worse yet, Notre Dame?

Find the right coach and the recruits will come.

"People like to take their shots at Ohio State but they are annually one of the top programs"

Would have to disagree, other than one win against a down Texas team that year, they have no , 0, zilch, nada quality wins in the last few years.
The should be strong consideration to disbaning that conference or moving it down to a lower level, where they can be able to compete.

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Originally posted by ClevelandDad:

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When it comes to football, when were the Big East and the ACC ever really UP???

Good Question. Not sure about the Big East but just a few short years ago the ACC was arguably the top conference in the country with Miami, Florida State, and Va Tech to a lesser extent contending for the national title each year. Obviously, they have fallen on some hard times. USC is riding high right now but where were they before Pete Carroll arrived? Now Michigan has fallen off the table. People like to take their shots at Ohio State but they are annually one of the top programs. There is a Buffalo Bills aspect to them but they won a title just a few short years ago. Ohio State produces more pro players than almost every other program out there.

Whatever happened to Nebraska?

Worse yet, Notre Dame?

Find the right coach and the recruits will come.

CD, when Miami and Va Tech were competing for national titles they were either independents or in the Big East. Neither had done much since joining the ACC. While from time to time and ACC or Big East team rises out of the pack, the conferences as a whole are not solid football conferences. The SEC, Big 10 and Pac 10 may not have been as strong as usual this year, but over a number of years they are consistently stronger than ACC/Big East.

Someone else mentioned West Virginia. Yes, they have a good football program. But they are the only Big East team that is there year in and year out. Though they did beat Oklahoma recently, so did Boise State. Which sort of gets me back where I started...

Oh yeah... And there is NOTHING wrong with what's happened to Notre Dame. Single greatest development in college sports in my lifetime!!

I would prefer to see Alabama play Texas because I think it would be a better game, but then no one would watch the Boise State/Utah game. You have to pair them up with teams that will draw national attention, not just regional, and this matchup is the only way to shut people up that contend these teams should have been this high. These two teams will get spanked like Hawaii did last year. (I am, by no means a GA Bulldog fan). Then people will have to say, "Ok, maybe their schedule was weaker than we thought and it just made them look better."

The only solution is a playoff, which everyone but the people in charge agree upon.

On another note, as for Ohio State, until they can beat ANYONE from the SEC, I would suggest we leave them out of any meaningful discussions.

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Originally posted by theEH:
I don't have a problem with this match-up.

I do have a problem with the rest of the BCS.

Alabama should be playing Texas.
Boise State against Utah??

I just don't like there match-up's after the title game.

What do you all think would be better match-up's

EH

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Whatever happened to Nebraska?

Hey, hey. We're on our way back. Got rid of that yahoo Bill Callaghan and hired a real coach in Pelini. He did great in his first year with no real change in talent. We went 8-4 with a very tough schedule, losses to Oklahoma, Tx Tech, Missouri and Virginia Tech. Should have won the two Tech games...got blown out in the other two. Headed to the Gator Bowl on Jan 1 vs Clemson. We're getting there. We'll win the Big 12 north next year, tied Missouri this year. We'll be strong just as we get Texas back on our schedule in 2010!