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Freshman Scholorships

D diamond33Member
My son is a 2013. He has been in touch with about 8 major D1 coaches on the phone in the last 2 months. He is a LHP that has topped out at two showcases at 90 mph. How often are scholorships given out in big schools for freshman? My question is regarding looking at other smaller schools to get possibly more playing time and possibly scholorship opportunities. Thanks.
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D diamond33Member
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Originally posted by DLOCK15:
There are several 2013's that are already committed to big time D1 programs. If your son is indeed touching 90 as a lefty then he will get some offers from someone.


Thank you for your response. When you say they are committed, what does that mean? Are they giving out scholorships for Freshman at that level? I'm just trying to figure out what options are available. Thank you.
PrepsterPrepster10,000+ posts
Brendo,

Welcome to the High School Baseball Web. As you've probably already discovered, many of us found this site to be a wonderful resource when our sons were in your son's shoes.

The large majority of college baseball players who receive athletic scholarships receive some level of assistance as Freshmen. Since scholarships are committed for a year at a time, it's not unusual for them to vary from year-to-year; depending upon the player's contribution to the team.

Since Division I programs are limited to providing the equivalent of 11.7 athletic scholarships to be spread among 27 players, full ATHLETIC scholarships are extremely rare in baseball. Those players who are receiving "full scholarships" are usually receiving a combination of athletic AND academic scholarships.

You should note that not all Division I programs are sufficiently funded to provide all 11.7 scholarships they're allowed to give. In those instances, players tend to receive an even smaller percentage of their costs from athletic scholarships.

Especially among the parents of younger players, there's still a lot of misinformation about this topic floating around out there. Many are unaware that the only two men's sports that grant full scholarships routinely are football and basketball. As a result, it's not unusual to hear players' family members saying, "Johnny received an offer for a full baseball scholarship to XYZ University;" when, in fact, Johnny was offered the NCAA-mandated minimum offer of 25% of his costs from athletic funds.

Do searches on this website and read all you can about this and related topics. As you do, you'll become increasingly well prepared to guide your son through the recruiting maze. Best of luck to him!
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D diamond33Member
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Originally posted by Prepster:
Brendo,

Welcome to the High School Baseball Web. As you've probably already discovered, many of us found this site to be a wonderful resource when our sons were in your son's shoes.

The large majority of college baseball players who receive athletic scholarships receive some level of assistance as Freshmen. Since scholarships are committed for a year at a time, it's not unusual for them to vary from year-to-year; depending upon the player's contribution to the team.

Since Division I programs are limited to providing the equivalent of 11.7 athletic scholarships to be spread among 27 players, full ATHLETIC scholarships are extremely rare in baseball. Those players who are receiving "full scholarships" are usually receiving a combination of athletic AND academic scholarships.

You should note that not all Division I programs are sufficiently funded to provide all 11.7 scholarships they're allowed to give. In those instances, players tend to receive an even smaller percentage of their costs from athletic scholarships.

Especially among the parents of younger players, there's still a lot of misinformation about this topic floating around out there. Many are unaware that the only two men's sports that grant full scholarships routinely are football and basketball. As a result, it's not unusual to hear players' family members saying, "Johnny received an offer for a full baseball scholarship to XYZ University;" when, in fact, Johnny was offered the NCAA-mandated minimum offer of 25% of his costs from athletic funds.

Do searches on this website and read all you can about this and related topics. As you do, you'll become increasingly well prepared to guide your son through the recruiting maze. Best of luck to him!
Thank you very much. That helps clarify some immediate questions. I'll probably have more. Thanks again!!
PatriotPatriot100+ posts
Brendo,

I am in a very similar situation with a 2013 LHP. Please don't rush into any decisions about what school junior should attend. Prepster did a good job laying out the facts about where things stand in college baseball finances. The high academic school tend to take the longest to make an offer because the SAT's and ACT's are still to come for the 2013's even if they have a great GPA. Some of the strong baseball schools could act early if they have been able to follow your son. I can't believe that with his profile that the schools within several states don't already know quite a bit about him. It's their job. You are doing the right thing. Keep asking questions.
playfairplayfair500+ posts
Thanks TR, I was hoping someone with some sense would chime in.

It is completely illegal for a coach to call a 2013 player right now. The first moment it would be legal is July 1 after the players junior year. (Which would be July 1, 2012)

A player can call a coach at anytime however.

With that said, if a 2013 calls a coach and the coach says, "johnny, i love you, i want you, i am going to make you a non-binding, verbal offer to you of Xscholarship % to come to my school" then Johnny can accept the non binding verbal offer.

That is called an "early verbal" commitment.

Nothing is binding until the NLI is signed fall semester of the players senior year. And, the player will still have to gain academic admittance to the school along with securing funding for the portion of the cost of college not covered by the scholarship.
observer44observer441,000+ posts
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Careful about those parent announced "Full Rides"...and "a guaranteed starting position"...

Player parents are nortoriously bad with math and hard of hearing...

As a result of the bad hearing?..."will compete for a starting position"...becomes..."a guaranteed starting position"...

And with the poor math skills?...any % offer becomes a "full ride"...

Cool 44
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PrepsterPrepster10,000+ posts
quote:
I was hoping someone with some sense would chime in.


From one of those who doesn't have any sense: I don't believe that the original post specifies who placed the call. You, yourself, indicate that players can call coaches.

Instead of making an assumption about who initiated the call, I made the choice to address a couple of the broader issues; since Brendo seemed new to the process. How senseless of me (and the rest of the well-meaning contributors) to think that there might be some additional issues involved.

Thanks for keeping the rest of us straight, though.
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D diamond33Member
quote:
Originally posted by Prepster:
quote:
I was hoping someone with some sense would chime in.


From one of those who doesn't have any sense: I don't believe that the original post specifies who placed the call. You, yourself, indicate that players can call coaches.

Instead of making an assumption about who initiated the call, I made the choice to address a couple of the broader issues; since Brendo seemed new to the process. How senseless of me (and the rest of the well-meaning contributors) to think that there might be some additional issues involved.

Thanks for keeping the rest of us straight, though.


Thanks Prepster...My son has initiated all calls. I may have to get my advice elsewhere if my reaching out for advice is followed by assumptions and criticism...Thanks anyway.
L Leftysidearmom100+ posts
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Originally posted by observer44:
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Careful about those parent announced "Full Rides"...and "a guaranteed starting position"...

Player parents are nortoriously bad with math and hard of hearing...


Yup. We tend to believe people are doing what we would do. I would never brag that my son was getting something he wasn't (scholarship, offer, etc.). I assumed the best of people when they said Jr had heard from four D1's (which ended up meaning they got a form letter back from his email), Jr will be playing at XYZ next year (ended up meaning he was going to try and walk on) and Jr has a full scholarship (meant he got the full amount they could give him of what was left...25%). This aspect of baseball (and softball) has been eye-opening for me. Maybe they are employing the Law of Attraction or something, but they obviously don't realize baseball is a small world. For your own decision making purposes, take what other parents brag about with a grain of salt.
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