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We play American Legion, but under High School rules. Do we have to start over, or do we pick up where we were at?

also, while I'm here (!), we had an 0-2 curveball in the dirt (batter swung and missed) kick into the dugout. The ump awarded the batter 2nd base. I said it was only one base from the time of pitch, but he said that when the ball went out of bounds, the runner was on his way to first. I said it didn't matter because it was time of pitch, but he didn't want to hear it. He said it was the base you were going to, plus one. I nearly got rung up after he made that comment, but I walked away. Can I quote a specific fed rule for that?

(I wish fed rules were online...)
_________________________ I'm feeling pretty good - we've got it narrowed down to only about 1 colleges now!!!
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Not positive in high school (fed) rules, but I don't think that there is any difference with OBR on this issue. You would keep going from where left off.

On the second issue, you are correct that he gets first, and first only. Any other runner would get a base as well. However, if the batter intentionally kicked the ball (you did not specify), dead ball, batter out, runners go back to bases from time of pitch.
Thanks!

I'm hoping that the rule is you continue, because we were beating the number one team in the league 10-9 in the bottom of the 4th when it was called (we were up and had a man on with no outs).


on the second issue, it was just a nasty curve that kicked sideways off the catcher's glove and went into the dugout. The ump contradicted himself by first agreeing with TOP, and then saying "when the ball went out of bounds, the runner was already on his way to first..."

one more question - R2 takes off to 3rd on a steal. Pitcher was going to use the inside move to pick him off second, but upon seeing R2 on his way to 3rd, throws to third and the runner is tagged out. The ump said he threw to an unoccupied base. I said that it was ok because he was making a play. The runner was about halfway to third when the pitcher decided to go to third instead of 2nd. Was this ok, or was it a balk?
Id urge you to contact your league to see what the rules are for continuing a suspended game.....it sounds as if you were the home team....your league may allow you to pick up where you left off or may make you start over....

The rule on TOP does not matter if you use OBR or NFHS rules....

7.05
Each runner including the batter-runner may, without liability to be put out, advance --
(h) One base, if a ball, pitched to the batter, or thrown by the pitcher from his position on the pitcher’s plate to a base to catch a runner, goes into a stand or a bench, or over or through a field fence or backstop. The ball is dead;
APPROVED RULING: When a wild pitch or passed ball goes through or by the catcher, or deflects off the catcher, and goes directly into the dugout, stands, above the break, or any area where the ball is dead, the awarding of bases shall be one base. One base shall also be awarded if the pitcher while in contact with the rubber, throws to a base, and the throw goes directly into the stands or into any area where the ball is dead.

At the time of the pitch the batter/runner was standing at the plate...

On the third question.....You may throw to an unoccupied base in order to make a play..........No balk....the problem comes in when people read the rule book incompletely....the rule says it is a balk to throw to an unoccupied base....(then adds) except to make a play........some only read the first part and not the second....if the rule was written correctly it would state, Except to make a play, it is a balk to throw to an unoccupied base......

As to NFHS rules availabilty........you can always buy a rule book......www.nfhs.org.....
Thanks!

I will order. I see online that they have two similar items - one is a rules book and the other is Rules by Topic. Which one would you suggest for a coach?


Also, regarding how to resume or replay the game, are you saying there is no specific rule in Fed? It just so happens that the president of my league is also the manager of the opposing team. He sent an email out this morning saying all postponed games would have to be made up. Luckily for me, some other coaches are questioning this. I just wanted to know if I could point to a specific rule.
Most resume where they left off but in Fed it isa s state adoption option. So in your case you would have to decide as a league.
The PU needs to learn there is no such thing as 1=1. It is either TOP or TOT. When it is from the rubber it is always 1 base. The only exception is if it is stopped or nearly stopped and the catcher creates a new action to kick it out of play, then it would two bases.
The balk question is as PIAA said. You were correct.
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I will order. I see online that they have two similar items - one is a rules book and the other is Rules by Topic. Which one would you suggest for a coach?
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I have the rules by topic book from NFHS and I find it useful. It is not a replacement for the Rules and Case books but it is a good resource.

I prefer the actual rule books as the "Rules by Topic" does not cover all the rules. But its strong points are the way it combines the rules, case book examples and rationales. Very easy to read.

I would have no problem suggesting someone to buy the Rules by Topic book, just as long as they were aware that it does not cover 100% of the rules.....

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