"Get back here"

dave0mary10+ posts

This is a video of a batter getting hit. From what I see, he actually lifts his arm a bit in addition to not getting out of the way. Remember, watching a video ... expecting the outcome ... is a whole lot different than not being alert at all times and incorrectly making a call. Not looking so much for judgement; rather, philosophies on how to look at a situation such as this. ie:, was pitcher throwing a (lefty) curve, knuckleball? Any "agendas" before game started? Is it 23 -0 in the 2nd? Does the game situations change your decision? Should they?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...e=feedrec_grec_index

3/3/119:50 AM

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Michael S. Taylor1,000+ posts

I don't know that he picked his arm up but he certainly didn't move at all. Anywhere except NCAA he comes back, first base for college.

3/3/1110:05 AM

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bballman10,000+ posts

Looks like he didn't make an attempt to get out of the way to me either. If he would have even turned his shoulders a little, HBP. As it looks to me, he didn't make an attempt, no HBP. Game situation should not matter. The situation in a game should never dictate how you apply the rules. I'm not an ump, but that's what I think.

3/3/1110:09 AM

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pilsner500+ posts

Just one umpire's opinion.
The batter in the video didn't make any reasonable effort to avoid being hit by the pitch nor did he appear to be "frozen" by the pitch. His knees didn't buckle; heck he didn't even take a stride of any kind. He simply stood stock still and let the ball hit him. He stays in the box.

As far as the other questions go, I don't consider agendas, score or game situations when determining whether a batter goes to first or stays at the plate. Each occurrence stands on its own merit.

3/3/1110:19 AM

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pilsner500+ posts

quote:
Anywhere except NCAA he comes back, first base for college.

...and MLB.

3/3/1110:34 AM

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dash_riprock1,000+ posts

quote:
Originally posted by pilsner:
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Anywhere except NCAA he comes back, first base for college.

...and MLB.

NCAA gives the batter 1st base if he freezes and is hit by a pitch which is clearly within the vertical lines of the batter's box. OBR has no such exception in the rules.

3/3/1110:49 AM

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pilsner500+ posts

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OBR has no such exception in the rules.

In no way, shape or form was I suggesting that it did.

3/3/1111:52 AM

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TX-Ump74100+ posts

yep... when a batter comes up to the plate with protection on the elbow this always looks a little fishy... this was a good call, if you watch closely he does move his elbow into it

3/3/1112:42 PM

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dash_riprock1,000+ posts

quote:
Originally posted by pilsner:
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OBR has no such exception in the rules.

In no way, shape or form was I suggesting that it did.

Then I completely misunderstood your response of "and MLB (winky face)" to Mike's post stating: "Anywhere except NCAA he comes back, first base for college."

3/3/113:24 PM

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pilsner500+ posts

Dash,

That was the intent of the "winky face". You and I both know that if a batter in an MLB game gets hit in the box he's going to first base.

3/3/113:37 PM

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