Getting Recruited In Juco

Most JuCo players that advance to 4 year schools get recruited during the fall of their sophomore year and many of them commit before the spring season begins. For that to happen a solid freshman year under your belt is a prerequisite. If that doesn’t occur it makes getting recruited out of JuCo much more difficult. One thing to always keep in mind is that anytime a 4 year school has interest in a JuCo player the first phone call they make is to the JuCo HC - which means that guy can do more to help you advance than anyone else. But he can also do more to keep a player from seeing opportunities than anyone else. So if you are a JuCo player it’s very important for you to stay on good terms with your HC. Unlike HS HCs, JuCo HCs have a ton of influence on a player’s future.

Francis

is the player contribution to his team. Is the team a winner?

Is the team in the top top 10 in Texas, Ca.?

Bob

@Consultant posted:

Francis

is the player contribution to his team. Is the team a winner?

Is the team in the top top 10 in Texas, Ca.?

Bob

Most JuCo players in the country aren’t on top ten teams in Texas and California. The other 99% of JuCo players are also looking for places to play from D1 to D3.

Each year, hundreds of 4 year College Coaches attend the JC National Tournaments in Grand Junction and the California State Tournament in Folsom, California.

The JC Coaches and players, know how to win at the "highest" level.

As Adbono has reported from Grand Junction, the competition is intense.

4 year College COACHES are evaluating the 6 tools.

Bob

@Consultant posted:

Each year, hundreds of 4 year College Coaches attend the JC National Tournaments in Grand Junction and the California State Tournament in Folsom, California.

The JC Coaches and players, know how to win at the "highest" level.

As Adbono has reported from Grand Junction, the competition is intense.

4 year College COACHES are evaluating the 6 tools.

Bob

So, if a player isn’t at a top ranked JuCo and doesn’t play in the JuCo WS they shouldn’t bother to attempt to continue their collegiate baseball career? What percentage of JuCo baseball players of all JuCo players play in the JuCo WS each year? There are 537 NJCAA teams between the three divisions. If the best JuCo player in the country is on a team that doesn’t make the D1 WS should he give up his baseball vision?

Your post comes off as elitism and all others need not apply.

What about college summer leagues? Do 4 years schools scout them for Juco players?

The greatest recruitment time for JUCO to D1 is during fall.  I know our coaches, not all the same day,  miss a couple of days of practice for about a 3 week period every fall to go see juco's play or do workouts.  That is the easiest time.  For summer leagues, it better be a standout guy in the spring that they want to see.  They don't just show up looking.  They are recruiting HS guys in the summer.

@Francis7 posted:

What about college summer leagues? Do 4 years schools scout them for Juco players?

I don't know abut JUCO specifically, but college coaches defiantly scout summer leagues. I assume they'll follow up with any player they think can help them and are eligible to be recruited by them.

Francis;

You can check the Summer League Officers as they will have that info. The "pipeline" between JC Coaches and 4 year College Coaches is amazing.

The California 4 year Coaches all have contacts with the JC Coaches.

See the current web site.  https://www.cccbca.com/landing/index.

Bob

@RJM posted:

So, if a player isn’t at a top ranked JuCo and doesn’t play in the JuCo WS they shouldn’t bother to attempt to continue their collegiate baseball career? What percentage of JuCo baseball players of all JuCo players play in the JuCo WS each year? There are 537 NJCAA teams between the three divisions. If the best JuCo player in the country is on a team that doesn’t make the D1 WS should he give up his baseball vision?

Your post comes off as elitism and all others need not apply.

wow. not how I read it at all.

@PitchingFan posted:

The greatest recruitment time for JUCO to D1 is during fall.  I know our coaches, not all the same day,  miss a couple of days of practice for about a 3 week period every fall to go see juco's play or do workouts.  That is the easiest time.  For summer leagues, it better be a standout guy in the spring that they want to see.  They don't just show up looking.  They are recruiting HS guys in the summer.

This is spot on. Most JuCos will play fall tournaments on the campus of 4 year schools to make it easier for their players to be seen. Often coaches from other 4 year schools attend as well and a lot of recruiting results from these events.
  If you play on a team that advances to the postseason it greatly increases your exposure. My son that played JuCo in Oklahoma was on a nationally ranked team. There were plenty of 4 year coaches at their Regional and even more at their World Series event. This resulted in players receiving offers they would not have gotten otherwise. That is what Bob is alluding to.

@Dadbelly2023 posted:

wow. not how I read it at all.

Me either

Adbono,

as a former D2 College Coach and founder of Area Code games, players exhibit their true future by their actions. off and on the field.

Adbono, Please continue your education of players and parents. They should continue their baseball education of reality.
High level of competition is very difficult to achieve,  as a player needs to experience the games. My teachers were Willie Mays, Bob Gibson  and Sam Jones Celtics. they knew the game of life and baseball.

Bob

@Consultant posted:

Adbono,

as a former D2 College Coach and founder of Area Code games, players exhibit their true future by their actions. off and on the field.

Adbono, Please continue your education of players and parents. They should continue their baseball education of reality.
High level of competition is very difficult to achieve,  as a player needs to experience the games. My teachers were Willie Mays, Bob Gibson  and Sam Jones Celtics. they knew the game of life and baseball.

Bob

Thank you, Bob. I do my best. But most people don’t want to hear about reality. They only believe it after it has happened to them. And then it’s too late to do anything about it. I have tremendous respect for your baseball resume. It’s pretty amazing. I was not influenced by HOF players like you were. I was an overlooked player that went JuCo and made it as a walk on at Texas A&M and earned a scholarship. I saw firsthand the difference between how JuCo players were treated vs players that were recruited as freshmen. I was lucky enough to play with 5 teammates that made it to the big leagues. I saw the difference between the work ethic in our All Americans and the rest of the roster. Our best players taught  me how to work hard towards a goal and to never lose sight of it. I was a red shirt squad guy my first year and a seldom used reliever my second year. An injury to another pitcher opened a door for me my senior year and I made the most of it - ending the year as one of our best guys out of the bullpen. And I threw a complete game shutout vs a Bowling Green team that included Orel Hershiser. Players today are not afforded the luxury of having time to develop the way I was. My playing career was a swim upstream. Nothing about it was easy. That’s why I advocate for players now. I understand the challenges that most players will face as it’s only easy for the chosen few.

@adbono - I have to say, all this time, not knowing you, reading everything that you posted at the forum, I had this mental picture of you being this former player now coach somewhere around 27-34 years old. Now, I have learned that you're older than me...and I am pretty darn old. Please take this as a compliment. It's a feather in your cap that you're not one of these old guys (says the fellow old guy) who lives in the past, clings on to past and dated notions, and waggles his finger at everyone. You've always impressed me with your feedback in the forum but now it's at an even higher level. Thanks for all you do here.

@adbono posted:

Most JuCo players that advance to 4 year schools get recruited during the fall of their sophomore year and many of them commit before the spring season begins. For that to happen a solid freshman year under your belt is a prerequisite. If that doesn’t occur it makes getting recruited out of JuCo much more difficult. One thing to always keep in mind is that anytime a 4 year school has interest in a JuCo player the first phone call they make is to the JuCo HC - which means that guy can do more to help you advance than anyone else. But he can also do more to keep a player from seeing opportunities than anyone else. So if you are a JuCo player it’s very important for you to stay on good terms with your HC. Unlike HS HCs, JuCo HCs have a ton of influence on a player’s future.

As my 2024 son was being recruited this past year, I got to know one of the Juco head coaches really well.  I genuinely like the guy a lot, and discovered that he sincerely hoped that all of his players could get a D1 or D2 opportunity upon graduating from their Juco program.   I got the impression that the Juco Head Coach is the key figure in getting recruited from JUCO into a four year program.   

@Francis7, I appreciate the kind way that you called me out for being old!

@adbono posted:

@Francis7, I appreciate the kind way that you called me out for being old!

LOL. I really meant it as a compliment. You don't come across as an older person. And I am basically the same age as you. Probably 5 years younger.

@Ster posted:

As my 2024 son was being recruited this past year, I got to know one of the Juco head coaches really well.  I genuinely like the guy a lot, and discovered that he sincerely hoped that all of his players could get a D1 or D2 opportunity upon graduating from their Juco program.   I got the impression that the Juco Head Coach is the key figure in getting recruited from JUCO into a four year program.   

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