Good guy on bad team

If he is playing the competition you say he is then he is getting seen---they come to see the oppositions committs and they see your son

My son played on a HS team in NY that never won more than 6 games in a season but he got a scholarship to New Mexico State and offers in his own region

Whhat showcases has your son been to?
What summer/fall team does he play for? You have a load of good ones in your state
Has he contacted colleges and invited them to come see him in action?
How are his grades? You don't mention them.

Keep in mind that the college coach isn't recruiting the whole team, so as long as your son is showing what he can do, it really doesn't matter. I guess that's the beauty of baseball, which is still a game of one on one matchups.

That said, don't assume that your kid is being seen. If you're wrong, it's likely you won't find out until it's too late. Be proactive and contact some coaches on your own. Assuming his grades are up to snuff, coaches will respond. While you're at it, spend some time to put together a skills video as well. I have a write-up by a college coach about what to include in the video, including preferred camera angles, etc. If you would like a copy, just send me a PM with your email address.

If your son is 6-4 throwing 91-93 whats the problem? If he was 5-5 throwing 74 on an undefeated state champion would that be better?

Coaches dont recruit teams. They recruit players. If he is playing against other players going to schools like this he is getting exposure. If he is 6-4 throwing 91-93 then they know who he is and could careless how bad the team is he is playing on.

Do any of you actually believe a kid can have that size - throw 91-93 - play hs baseball in Texas - play against players going to other high profile college programs - play against teams coached by other hs coaches who have players going to these schools - and no one knows who he is?

Seriously, lets get real.

D'oh...no offense Yak, what do you think college coaches are doing right now? Guess what they are running their teams.

If he is what you say he is - no worry's. Get him on a good summer team, get to the Area Code tryouts, Arizona Fall Sr Classic. With his size and numbers - pick the school he wants to go to and send him there.

Coaches talk all the time. If I got a guy going to Rice and we are playing someone and they got a RHP 6-4 210 pumping 91-93 you think I might make a call to someone? You think someone is going to let someone know about him? Players talk as well. You think they might say something to someone about this kid?

Like BOF said just pick your school and go to a camp. Heck just show up and throw a pen for them. I know Texas is a big state and there are tons of really good players to choose from. But how many 6-4 91-93 guys fly completely under the radar because their on a bad hs team?

None.

My son is a 2012 and playing in a district that you described with the Rice and TCU signees. If your son is as described, get him on a good select team this summer. The Banditos and Heat are good starting points in SE Texas. I wish my son had the size and velocity your guy posseses. The scouts are constantly circulating in Texas. Send coach Jeremy Fikac at Texas State a message or video. Great guy that is always looking for talent. Summer is the key for you. Get to some of the Perfect Game events individually and with a team. You will get noticed.

If he is interested in any of those schools then it would be a good idea to send him to the camp at that particular school. If he's gotten a targeted invite then they've seen or heard of him and are interested but that doesn't mean they'll make it to one of his HS games. For a player with those kind of numbers who is interested in a particular school it is going to be a good idea to attend their camp even if they don't know who he is coming in.

Obviously finances play a role in any of these decisions. The camps provide the coaches both with a means of making money and of seeing the few players they really are interested in. If you can standout in some way a camp can be a good deal. If you can't they aren't.

We know a kid with similar but not quite as good numbers who was essentially buried by his HS coach during his junior season. He went to a camp at his school of interest, a solid D1, and ended up with a roster spot.

If your son is interested in attending those schools, have him be pro active and write them a letter, an email, and follow up with a phone call.

And if those schools are wanting your son to come to the camps, than someone is watching him. Schools will not avoid your son simply because of the competition.

And if you have your doubts, why not send him to one of the proven showcases so he can find out where he stands against the better competition. After that, things should be alot more clear. Just my opinion

We had a pitcher in our league last season who played on the weakest team in the conference. His record in the regular season was 2-6. He was selected in the mlb draft last June but opted to play for a top 20 D1 school on a huge scholarship instead. His HS team could not field as well, but trust me, it did not matter.

In a recruiting sense, your son is probably better off being on a poor team in Texas than being on a good team in the North so look at the glass as already half-full.

The cliche "they will come", may ring true for the most part but IMO you also have to exert some effort off the field. While recruiting services may claim to get your name out there, they are often ignored by schools because they are a dime-a-dozen and coaches many times look at them as nothing more than junk mail. The advise given here so far is great! I would add that that while your son is proving it on the field, your SON needs to step it up and and get personally involved. Besides a life lesson, coaches like nothing more than a kid who who uses a "don't bring me problems, bring me solutions" approach. Whether it be a camp, letter, phone call, email, unofficial visit, or whatever.....get on it.

Also, when dreaming of potential schools make sure the blinders are off and you look at all the levels for opportunity. Sometimes you need to take one step back with your dream in order to take two steps forward. Besides the academic credit transfer opportunities, and immediate pt, a hitch at a 2-year program is putting you on a bigger stage where you will soon prove your worth to all types of colleges from all across the country.

No more "Woe is me", it's time to get to work because you have seen that doing nothing, has gotten you nothing.

btw- that above post wasn't a dig, just my Lombardi half time speech.

YAK_321, What I don't understand is that on March 21, 2009 you were a.....

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I'm a sophomore in highschool, 6'2 195, 7.2 60, so far through 13 games at the varsity level Im hitting in the .600 range, 8 homeruns (2 multi homerun games), and off the mound I touch 86-87, i mostly pitch/DH

Now you are....

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My sons a big 6'4 210 RHP/1B throws about 91-93, 1.25ERA in one of the top districts in texas, hitting .411....

Yak, I guess congrats are in order for the raising of your son in record time, and his physical "fastrack" to the college level. You must be so proud. I will have to admit that your sense of reality within story telling has grown in the last year. Those Soph stats were really BS in regard to believability IMHO.

Whether or not this is an attempt to "play" with the "HSBBW Nation", the advise shared by "valid" posters in this thread is of value to all parents/players who may have a similar storyline.

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YAK_321, What I don't understand is that on March 21, 2009 you were a.....

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Yak_321 quote:
I'm a sophomore in highschool, 6'2 195, 7.2 60, so far through 13 games at the varsity level Im hitting in the .600 range, 8 homeruns (2 multi homerun games), and off the mound I touch 86-87, i mostly pitch/DH

Now you are....

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My sons a big 6'4 210 RHP/1B throws about 91-93, 1.25ERA in one of the top districts in texas, hitting .411....

Yak, I guess congrats are in order for the raising of your son in record time, and his physical "fastrack" to the college level. You must be so proud.

Whether or not this is an attempt to "play" with the "HSBBW Nation", the advise shared by "valid" posters in this thread is of value to all parents/players who may have a similar storyline.

Dad using his son's profile?

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Dad using his son's profile?

Would you? Would your 17 yr old son let you? Setting up a profile is a lot easier than asking Jr for his password so you can "piggyback" and write about him IMO. Besides the writing styles are so similar with all his posts.

It makes no difference in my opinion. Why are we so quick to call BS on everyone? Dad using son's profile seems perfectly normal to me, especially when it's a rarely used one. I just don't see the need to call them out.

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Originally posted by OnWabana:
It makes no difference in my opinion. Why are we so quick to call BS on everyone? Dad using son's profile seems perfectly normal to me, especially when it's a rarely used one. I just don't see the need to call them out.

If I'm wrong, I wrong, and I would have no problem publicly apologizing. Message boards are anonymous enough yet some go out of their way to wear that "poser" tag with the intent to deceive. I don't think you can draw a line with a level of deceitfulness. This was innocent enough but deceit is deceit and it only escalates as the plot thickens. If you can live with it, fine, I don't have a problem with your opinion. However I see posers in a different light and in the past they have incited and caused some nasty remarks thrown around this site which I think is BS.

What rz2 is saying just exemplifies why much of what can be found on the internet is not always factual.

Yes my son made this last year to see what people input was, and yes he grew quite a bit since last year, thats normal right growing in highschool? I myself and 6'6'' so its not absurd to say hes gonna be tall, moneys tight right now and showcases nowadays are way to expensive, hes gotten invites to em but just cant make it work, he's going to play for a really good Kyle Chapman team out of Houston that is known for getting guys to D1 schools

BOF your post was what calmed juniors nerves down so thanks a ton for that

Coach May do you know how many kids down here pop the mitt at 90+? There are too many to count this place is a freak show when it comes to highschool baseball

RZ1 that was through the first 13 games, he finished at .439 with 11 homers that is very believable cuz once district play started and he saw a solid guy every game he dipped a little bit but still stayed up there

thanks everyone for your input it really helped

I dont care where your from kids with that size throwing 91-93 are not a dime a dozen. To suggest otherwise is simply absurd.

There is not a college program in American a kid with that size showing up popping the mitt at 91-93 would not find a home right away. Even in Texas.

Come on now, Coach May, we're talking TEXAS here! We're all 6'3 at least and on our 2A team we had three guys throwing at least 90. Or maybe it was 80. Not that much difference is there? I guess me and my boys got in the wrong line when they were passing out those height genes. In all seriousness, I can't imagine a 6'4" kid even in the land of Nolan Ryan and Roger "what's his name" who throws 91 to 93 who wouldn't be noticed and heavily recruited. Probably more so here than some places.

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Originally posted by Coach_May:
Do any of you actually believe a kid can have that size - throw 91-93 - play hs baseball in Texas - play against players going to other high profile college programs - play against teams coached by other hs coaches who have players going to these schools - and no one knows who he is?

Seriously, lets get real.

Agreed...well said coach!

Yak,

Last year your son posted that there was a college/pro scout at "dang near every district game" he played in. Guess I don't understand the point about no exposure. Sounds like you both should be enjoying the ride.

Congrats on great stats.

With that size, and throwing 91-93 chances are he would be seen. Now we all know coaches talk alot, and at times talk some of their players up. For me, I want to see things for myself. Usually when a guy would contact me giving the ol "I got a guy throwing 91-92" this usually means take 5 MPH away. I can not count the number of times this happens. So with that being said, if this kid really is bringing 91-93 with that size he WILL be seen

Hi!
Our younger son had the lowest ERA and highest K's in our area, but his team never won a district game. He even lost a no hitter. In the end, it really didn't matter. To this day, all he remembers about his senior year is the fun he had playing with his buddies. He eventually was drafted by the Cubs and went on to pitch in the Big 12.

Try to help your son focus on his friendships, team goals, and the bigger picture. If he's throwing well, playing tough competition, and has a good attitude in the midst of adversity he will get noticed.

Stay positive and everything will fall into place.

No offense TxMom but how do you lose a game that was a perfect game? I see how you can lose a game with a no hitter as it's been done before.

Oooops! Sorry about that. I made the correction.

I said that he had Texas State, Texas A&M, and Sam Houston state giving him looks did i not? I posted this to see if anyone had the same experience, he's not flying completely under the radar in that sense, TXmom thanks for your input it was really helpful, its pretty crazy how that works out

For all you doubters the dont think the in the houston area alone there arent at least 30 kids that can hit at least 90mph with a fastball your very wrong, its done every tuesday and friday night many many times

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Originally posted by Yak_321:
... my son's going to play for a really good Kyle Chapman team out of Houston that is known for getting guys to D1 schools.

If true, then you have no worries. Houston KC plays in Premier Baseball. Luckily for Yak Jr, since 2009, Premier State Championships and Nationals are heavily scouted by Perfect Game.

Good Luck. If the KC gig does not work out, PM me. I'll get him exposed. GED10DaD