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“Coach O or anyone else who has an idea”
”I recently have two different kids that are throwing the baseball from their ear”

This mechanical condition, we call “grabbing” is caused from improper pendulum swing and ball to driveline height, arrival transition timing then not engaging their Lat’s during early transition making the transition to late.
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“They get good extention in the back “

At this point the glove arm leg should be down and the ball arm hand should be under the ball supinating, thumb up
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“but the first movement after that is to the ear”

This is one of the most important moments in the transition to prevent ‘grabbing”
That causes forearm centripetal (elbow bone degradation) imperative causing forearm looping (shoulder degradation) then bounce (UCL degradation)
Before the ball actually make any forwards movement. This action is a shoulder injury waiting to happen.
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“then away from the body to throw”

This is the centripetal path that degrades the shoulder and elbow with all traditional pitchers

The fix,
When they are at the back in their initial forwards force position they should start the ball directly to the plate by locking their Humerus in line with their shoulders line and immediately rotate the elbow up so that when they start their shoulder rotation the humerus comes with the shoulders as the forearm is still behind the Humerus at initial forwards force. They will have to attain a higher arm vector.

The drill,
This is a Latisimus dorsi isolation drill that will help tremendously with this grabbing problem. It gives the player the feel and neural switching to engage the Lat’s as the primary mover to throw with instead of the peck. We throw 20 before every bull pen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouQTS5_EcUc

This drill is now called the “half reverce pivot”
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http://camcorders.about.com/od...es/tp/TopTripods.htm

Not to be anything but helpful, one of these can make video like that watchable.

Isn't this the same drill Williams did with MM on the MLB channel?
And you contend that a guy throwing like a catcher (Ball to the ear) will change after working on this particular drill? I say that because the "appearance" of the drill is that front side is
being worked.
Jdfromfla,

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“Not to be anything but helpful, one of these can make video like that watchable”

Agreed, I always use a tripod when videoing. I even have an aluminum bar extension that puts my camcorder right in the chain link fence hole.

The young men who made this video probably borrowed the camera and could not afford a tripod and went way ahead of Marshall in disseminating this drill before he could put it out himself. They did it because even though Marshall was explaining the drill people were not quite understanding the concept so they made this effort that to me was good enough at the time.
Marshall will be coming out with all the variations of this drill in his next video improvement that will also employ the wrist weights and heavy ball with this drill.
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”Isn't this the same drill Williams did with MM on the MLB channel?”

You are correct and I have had many people think that is Marshall’s pitching motion a real big red flag and disservice to understanding what’s really happening. I think if Marshall had another 10 min. they could have shown the real motion. I believe with as little time Marshall had he wanted to expose this drill there. I would love to have seen the look on Harold Reynolds face if he actually tried to catch a real pitch from Williams.
In fact this video is Joe Williams going thru his training cycles.
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‘And you contend that a guy throwing like a catcher (Ball to the ear) will change after working on this particular drill?”

It pushes the proprioceptive (muscle memory) reaction towards a straighter driveline.
I have been using this drill for years for other proposes and use it extensively for this particular problem and when I get catchers with shoulder and elbow problems I tell them it is not necessary to grab in order to have a swift draw and release also.
Children perform this drill so much better than older players whom are traditionally oriented just like they perform the pitching motion better.
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“ I say that because the "appearance" of the drill is that front side is being worked.”

You are correct
This drill is turning out to be one of the most important things Marshall has promoted.
This is the same motion Marshall used to pick off runners at second base that all the managers at the time complained about to the umps because it worked so well and nobody else used it.
It puts great non injurious stress thru the core, Lats and triceps by isolating them with no body action

Another motor skill drill to eliminate grabbing is the plastic practice javelin throw that makes you start your initial forwards force from as far back as possible and kids love to chuck spears.

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