Grades matter in recruiting

Btw why does a college coach who is paid to win games care for grades?

Don't get me wrong, I think that is good and college sports should also be about education but what is the incentive for a coach who ultimately is judged by win percentage to  look at grades?

Grade inflation...yikes!

Standardized test scores matter most, at least initially, in college baseball recruiting. It’s the only way to compare kids nationwide to assess whether they can be admitted to the college.

Once in college, college coaches care about their players’ grades if they want them to be eligible to play. 

Dominik85 posted:

Btw why does a college coach who is paid to win games care for grades?

Don't get me wrong, I think that is good and college sports should also be about education but what is the incentive for a coach who ultimately is judged by win percentage to  look at grades?

First, the coach doesnt determine who gets in and who doesn't. That's up to admissions to decide, then they let the coach know if they meet MINIMUM requirements (based on the school). Then the coach decides if that meets his requirements.  No one wants a player who can't or won't stay eligible.

Second, coaches get paid incentives for their teams accumulative GPA.  I think the minimum for most D1 coaches starts at 3.00.

Dominik85 posted:

Btw why does a college coach who is paid to win games care for grades?

Don't get me wrong, I think that is good and college sports should also be about education but what is the incentive for a coach who ultimately is judged by win percentage to  look at grades?

As TPM mentioned coaches don’t decide who gets admitted. Once in a coach needs players who can maintain standards. Not maintaining APR can cost a team allowable practice time, scholarships and the right to play for conference and national championships. 

http://www.ncaa.org/about/reso...gress-rate-explained

RoadRunner posted:

TPM posted

Second, coaches get paid incentives for their teams accumulative GPA.  I think the minimum for most D1 coaches starts at 3.00.

Coaches get paid for a better GPAs?  I like that!

 

 

Its in their incentive package.May not apply to all programs.

Some also get incentives for wins, regional and CWS appearances within their division.

I just looked up Monte Lee's first year contract. His performance contract included,  Academic Achievement >=975 APR, $5K, ACC Tournament Championship $10K, $2,500K per ACC tournament wins, max 4.

There is more but that's just an example. His entire bonus potential is $200K.

TPM posted:

I just looked up Monte Lee's first year contract. His performance contract included,  Academic Achievement >=975, $5K, ACC Tournament Championship $10K, $2,500K per ACC tournament wins, max 4.

There is more but that's just an example. His entire bonus potential is $200K.

Academic Achievement would be APR. 

RJM posted:

TPM posted:

I just looked up Monte Lee's first year contract. His performance contract included,  Academic Achievement >=975, $5K, ACC Tournament Championship $10K, $2,500K per ACC tournament wins, max 4.

There is more but that's just an example. His entire bonus potential is $200K.

Academic Achievement would be APR. 

Forgot that edited, thanks.

Isn't it also important because the kid might be eligible for academic scholarship money?

Good grades opens up options.

Not-so-good grades limits your options.

Great grades can get a kid into a college to play baseball he might otherwise not get accepted. I know kids who went Ivy with 3.5 unweighted GPA and 1300 (math and English) SAT scores. They were in honors and AP classes. Great grades can make a student eligible to receive athletic and academic money. 

Not only do grades help with academic money and add to the chips a coach can play, they can be an insurance policy.

There's a 2019 I know who committed to the D1 of his choice this past year. Very projectable pitcher with excellent academics, and he got offers from pretty much everywhere (I expect to see him on the board next year.) The school has a very generous automatic scholarship for all incoming students with grades like his, there was either 0% or 25% athletic money in his offer, and he has 100% covered. Win-win for both athlete and program.

If he were to blow his arm out, he has the luxury of still being at the same school (assuming he maintains his grades) without a significant amount of struggle to find additional money. His contingency plan can be less complicated and stressful because of this.

That's what I thought, thanks!